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Title: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: The Mentalist on Sunday, April 05, 2015, 17:20:20 PM
First on extraction, then on radio tower, then on alley. What is the agreement? I'm not judging, just asking. If it's ok to forceclass on big clan day, then there is no point of me asking admins to stop it. Also, there was one round where everyone got pistols, and a minute later we get SF guns. That feeled like one of the admins needed an sf at some point.

I'm not against forceclassing, I do it myself and I do it often, but I'm jus wondering on what you guys agreed on.

These screenshots were taken this evening. And not during the last round of a game.

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Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, April 05, 2015, 17:52:48 PM
   
3 – Keep  AD LEAST the game 75 %  original
And if nessasairy  25 %  CHANCE Weapon  for the fun part .
Command is,   Admin consul :   AFC  WEAPON


if people read the topics, than they would not have these questions.

lol
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, April 05, 2015, 17:53:33 PM
Ganja.... rofl
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: The Mentalist on Sunday, April 05, 2015, 18:10:02 PM
lol

Where did you find that info Ganja? The announcement for today just had 4 maps in it, and the announcement for 12/04 doesn't have that info. I also don't see a sticky topic somewhere in this section of the forum.

Sorry for asking then and thanks for answering.
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Sunday, April 05, 2015, 18:17:52 PM
they are kids, just kids. doing shit and shit again.
sad to see that. but its just normal I guess.
don't like to play on bcd like fun server.
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, April 05, 2015, 18:19:11 PM
Until now we tolerate a small change of guns for the fun for the people who like it, also admins in BCD are humans and they are adult players. and if the server runs empty we will know its not good but as I see every time ,som players cry som players yelling hooah .
So we try to make it for all a nice game day ( YOU GIF AND YOU GET A GOOD TIME) I am sure the most of the time BCD is played in classic style so to make a topic about the view times that admins gif fun to others ore for them self its great !.

To come to your question I am busy to make a other way of inputh for the clans.
You can see in :  http://aao25.com/forum/big-clan-day/clan-is-the-boss/ (http://aao25.com/forum/big-clan-day/clan-is-the-boss/)  and becose I had to my cogitate about the limit in this I  choose for adleast 75 % classic and 25 weapon change aloud if nessesairy. 
So whit this the anser to your question.
My slogan is we can`t make all happy for 100 %, people are very diffrent so you need olso tolerance from the other site. 
I hope you understand and accept the admin decision your not alone its we.
 
Greeting =PUF=Vanoke
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: The Mentalist on Sunday, April 05, 2015, 18:22:36 PM
Until now we tolerate a small change of guns for the fun for the people who like it, also admins in BCD are humans and they are adult players. and if the server runs empty we will know its not good but as I see every time ,som players cry som players yelling hooah .
So we try to make it for all a nice game day ( YOU GIF AND YOU GET A GOOD TIME) I am sure the most of the time BCD is played in classic style so to make a topic about the view times that admins gif fun to others ore for them self its great !.

To come to your question I am busy to make a other way of inputh for the clans.
You can see in :  http://aao25.com/forum/big-clan-day/clan-is-the-boss/ (http://aao25.com/forum/big-clan-day/clan-is-the-boss/)  and becose I had to my cogitate about the limit in this I  choose for adleast 75 % classic and 25 weapon change aloud if nessesairy. 
So whit this the anser to your question.
My slogan is we can`t make all happy for 100 % people are very diffrent so you need olso tolerance from the other site. 
I hope you understand and accept the admin decision your not alone its we.
 
Greeting =PUF=Vanoke

Ok, thanks for all the info. I'll be there next Sunday!  :style:
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, April 05, 2015, 18:40:24 PM
they are kids, just kids. doing shit and shit again.
sad to see that. but its just normal I guess.
don't like to play on bcd like fun server.
    Its SOOOOOOOOOOOO  difficult normal I know HT did change guns,  I do not want to choose   between HT AND SWISS clan I hope for Tolerance .  In new setting the Boss clan is the ....... boss  and whit the untill now  75%  25% setting  they know how far they can go in this.

But i see and did change it in rules already in  90 % 10 % in the hope its acceptable for all.  what you say Merlin ?
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Sunday, April 05, 2015, 19:24:21 PM
good job as always Vanoke.
I guess it should be as normal as possible, otherwise you should make another bcd, but with an addiction of fun :)
at the beginning you did say, the last round before map changing could be done with fc. this is good and nice. also for all players to see the power of aa2 and its multiple kind of. but change the guns already before the middle of the match has reached - this is a no go for me. for sure when done because of loosing the match. then the "boss" should change the teams by swap, but only one admin should do this. would be ok for me - to balance the teams. for having fun.
but not force classing. this is no fun at all.
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, April 05, 2015, 19:31:23 PM
good job as always Vanoke.
I guess it should be as normal as possible, otherwise you should make another bcd, but with an addiction of fun :)
at the beginning you did say, the last round before map changing could be done with fc. this is good and nice. also for all players to see the power of aa2 and its multiple kind of. but change the guns already before the middle of the match has reached - this is a no go for me. for sure when done because of loosing the match. then the "boss" should change the teams by swap, but only one admin should do this. would be ok for me - to balance the teams. for having fun.
but not force classing. this is no fun at all.
  I will talk to other Clans.. And all credits go to    :up:  =PUF=SOUTH    :cool:   today i willcontact you to understand better your writing NOW SLEEP WELL ALL !  Dream BIG.
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, April 05, 2015, 21:09:20 PM
Just to stir the shit pot a bit...

The official stance is that we don't want it to be done every round over and over, that's why forceclassed servers aren't tracked. An occasional round is perfectly fine, everybody likes to change things up, otherwise the gameplay gets boring.
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Monday, April 06, 2015, 01:18:56 AM
Where did you find that info Ganja? The announcement for today just had 4 maps in it, and the announcement for 12/04 doesn't have that info. I also don't see a sticky topic somewhere in this section of the forum.
If you click on the link on top of his quote and then do ctrl+F to find the percentages. The info is there somewhere in the middle :)
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Galle on Thursday, April 09, 2015, 16:35:20 PM
Hello guys

Like vanoke said, there has been forceclassing from the start of BCD, so yes it is part of it. I know some dont like it but some does. To make some clear myself i prefer normal style like the map is designed, but some times fc is good too. People have asked me to do some fc in BCD so i do it if i think it is fine. I think it is good way to mix sometimes the game and i like the way kore does it -> too much camping so lets put some fc round in the mix. I get that some think it is not so much fun but some like it. I remember we had bit mis understanding about fc in some point, mister x fc one gun and i fc one gun maybe 10 seconds after by accident. We live in fragile aa community so we like to please all in BCD but it aint always possible.

I know Jelle/mentalist it just asking about it and im fine with it. Like vanoke replied we have done fc in past and it is part of future too. But i dont think what happen last time in BCD was nothing unusual. We didnt fc more than 25% of time, like i said i like normal and ppl asked for fc from me many times. And yes this time BCD was not OFFICIAL bcd at easter. So we let it ride a bit freely than normal but nothing exspecial. People asked and we keep it in control. I dont remember any unnormal complaining about fc to any other bcd we have every sunday and South was there too, and i asked about rules like map change at unoffiicial BCD.

Im sorry if i have done some harm and hope u guys can live with it. BCD is all about having fun all around at that aint changed. Only thing im bit surprised is merlin calling me a kid which is a bit harsh? Im done my service in real army for 1 year and count myself as a man. But yeah what of it, i dont care about talking about me being a kid or man, this is BCD and i like it very much and want it to bee cool to every player.

Thanks Galle
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Ganja on Thursday, April 09, 2015, 16:44:23 PM
Well it's always good to explain yourself. If you ask me 25% FC wouldn't hurt anyone
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: -[unR]BENDAWICH on Thursday, April 09, 2015, 17:51:25 PM
Still relatively high but if thats what ppl want then so be it =p
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Vanoke on Thursday, April 09, 2015, 18:46:42 PM
Hello guys

Like vanoke said, there has been forceclassing from the start of BCD, so yes it is part of it. I know some dont like it but some does. To make some clear myself i prefer normal style like the map is designed, but some times fc is good too. People have asked me to do some fc in BCD so i do it if i think it is fine. I think it is good way to mix sometimes the game and i like the way kore does it -> too much camping so lets put some fc round in the mix. I get that some think it is not so much fun but some like it. I remember we had bit mis understanding about fc in some point, mister x fc one gun and i fc one gun maybe 10 seconds after by accident. We live in fragile aa community so we like to please all in BCD but it aint always possible.

I know Jelle/mentalist it just asking about it and im fine with it. Like vanoke replied we have done fc in past and it is part of future too. But i dont think what happen last time in BCD was nothing unusual. We didnt fc more than 25% of time, like i said i like normal and ppl asked for fc from me many times. And yes this time BCD was not OFFICIAL bcd at easter. So we let it ride a bit freely than normal but nothing exspecial. People asked and we keep it in control. I dont remember any unnormal complaining about fc to any other bcd we have every sunday and South was there too, and i asked about rules like map change at unoffiicial BCD.

Im sorry if i have done some harm and hope u guys can live with it. BCD is all about having fun all around at that aint changed. Only thing im bit surprised is merlin calling me a kid which is a bit harsh? Im done my service in real army for 1 year and count myself as a man. But yeah what of it, i dont care about talking about me being a kid or man, this is BCD and i like it very much and want it to bee cool to every player.

Thanks Galle

GALLE :)  About FC i did make the % a little lower in game read   : http://aao25.com/forum/big-clan-day/clan-is-the-boss/ (http://aao25.com/forum/big-clan-day/clan-is-the-boss/)    its now 10 % fc  but if game map ask more ore less than its up to the Boss clan of that moment. Its to a feeling with the players in game wat is possible. You and merlin like normal, HT like a little more SF  and so far i think =PUF= sits between those 3. Thats way Boss Clan comming into BCD. Accept  the game FC around 10 % ore 0  but play the game if possible.
About what merlin did say its a impulsive reaction. i did talk last whit him and i told him that in letters in game you can`t gif fast emotions with it. and if you say a little bad thing to other player its difficult to make it good in view words.
Its good that you bring it here in this nice letter , i think i know merlin a bit and if he read it he will bring it
on a diffrent way.
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Friday, April 10, 2015, 03:00:18 AM
as i did say to Vanoke, the Big Clan Day is a very good idea to put players together to play other maps then usualy. and i was there at the very beginning of it - to support and to make it possible.

and i love this game, maybe sometimes a bit to much. sure i have to learn, still in my age. but you have to accept that i dont want to change everything. so i will stay out when this starts again with that much fc. it wasnt really fun anymore. to have snipers on airfield or pistol on poolday, as well as shootguns, this is very ok for me.
but when you do start to fc to get better guns then the map was made for, then it stopt for me having fun. so you did last sunday. i can live with it, but i will not play that then. but think about, you should really take care about that day, its - as everything - hard to get it, but soooo easy to loose it. remember that always.

so lets see how this works now. at the very beginning, and as i told you i was there at the start of it, it was only good to make fc at the last or 2 last rounds of a map. and this was good. to much of it is like going to play another game. so it looks for me.

but if most of the players do like that, i think you can go on with it and i will put a server on then without fc. to see what the players do wish. i mean more then 50% of it :)

have fun
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Ganja on Friday, April 10, 2015, 05:41:33 AM
but if most of the players do like that, i think you can go on with it and i will put a server on then without fc. to see what the players do wish. i mean more then 50% of it :)

OMG VANOKE, MERLIN TRYING TO STEAL THE PLAYERS OF BCD, BAN !
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Vanoke on Friday, April 10, 2015, 06:03:22 AM
as i did say to Vanoke, the Big Clan Day is a very good idea to put players together to play other maps then usualy. and i was there at the very beginning of it - to support and to make it possible.

and i love this game, maybe sometimes a bit to much. sure i have to learn, still in my age. but you have to accept that i dont want to change everything. so i will stay out when this starts again with that much fc. it wasnt really fun anymore. to have snipers on airfield or pistol on poolday, as well as shootguns, this is very ok for me.
but when you do start to fc to get better guns then the map was made for, then it stopt for me having fun. so you did last sunday. i can live with it, but i will not play that then. but think about, you should really take care about that day, its - as everything - hard to get it, but soooo easy to loose it. remember that always.

so lets see how this works now. at the very beginning, and as i told you i was there at the start of it, it was only good to make fc at the last or 2 last rounds of a map. and this was good. to much of it is like going to play another game. so it looks for me.

but if most of the players do like that, i think you can go on with it and i will put a server on then without fc. to see what the players do wish. i mean more then 50% of it :)

have fun
before we run to fast we need time and talk how thinks can set in the right how you say proporsions . To make all happy i have to make good ,clear rules for all to understand . Meaby we must set a time in game 10 minuts befor ending  map game  if boss clan like it to do. !!
Next week shipment 32 slots is in game . This is a game map very little and how fare can we go in fc this map to make it intresting for 32 players .
Also if one clan stops to be in BCD i know i did my best to make it for all good . Compromise and tollerance . I do my best.
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Vanoke on Friday, April 10, 2015, 06:44:17 AM
OMG VANOKE, MERLIN TRYING TO STEAL THE PLAYERS OF BCD, BAN !
wat merlin is saying that in future to gif all a good BCD we need more Bcd server in diffrent style to make assist the best playable game agan in the world for all.
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Friday, April 10, 2015, 06:47:08 AM
i did not say swiss will stop to play, i did say I will stop to play then at those sundays. so really nothing special or dramatic :)
swiss is again a part of bcd, as a respect to you vanoke. and it will stay.

and good words vanoke:
wat merlin is saying that in future to gif all a good BCD we need more Bcd server in diffrent style to make assist the best playable game agan in the world for all.
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: -Vegeta- on Friday, April 10, 2015, 09:07:49 AM
Ganja you have an insessiant complusion to bring down. All the time trying to kiddon your a good guy. I have known you since years you and most of you clan were banned on my sever. For the same crap your still getting banned for. You can not hide your true heart in here. Thats all you do is bring down./ So we spoke and had a few games. and a few nice words together, but even in the other thrad all you want to do is take the piss. evert where you go. You have a huge desire to show how good you are in the game, Buy thinking if you win your better and people will love you. I can tell you its a false god you chasing. everyone bows the knee to some god or other idol. Yours is looking for conformation from man in the only way you know how. I am quite sure you will think I am wrong. But it will hit you one day. Nothing surer thabn that.
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Ganja on Friday, April 10, 2015, 09:35:00 AM
Ganja you have an insessiant complusion to bring down. All the time trying to kiddon your a good guy. I have known you since years you and most of you clan were banned on my sever. For the same crap your still getting banned for. You can not hide your true heart in here. Thats all you do is bring down./ So we spoke and had a few games. and a few nice words together, but even in the other thrad all you want to do is take the piss. evert where you go. You have a huge desire to show how good you are in the game, Buy thinking if you win your better and people will love you. I can tell you its a false god you chasing. everyone bows the knee to some god or other idol. Yours is looking for conformation from man in the only way you know how. I am quite sure you will think I am wrong. But it will hit you one day. Nothing surer thabn that.

Nah I'm just messing with Vanoke and Merlin cauz they are 50 year old "adults" who let their emotions get the best of them in this game and ban me without any reason from all the servers thety have.

So I figured, if they ban me anyway, I can atleast have some fun ... But yes you banned me and my clan (not sure what clan that would be). No need to talk about me again in this topic
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: -Vegeta- on Friday, April 10, 2015, 10:27:46 AM
give it up man
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: The Mentalist on Friday, April 10, 2015, 14:07:28 PM
Might I add a suggestion. Why not reduce the amount of rounds to 7. And at every 7th round, there's a forceclass round. You can add a scrolling server-rule that announces that every 10 minutes. This way, everyone will know exactly when there's a forceclass round and everyone is informed. And this way players already got the change to get to know the map before a fun-round starts.

You can also swap the teams during that 7th round so that the next 7 round's you'll be able to play on the other team. So when the admins executes the forceclass script, he can execute the swapteam script so that the next match, everybody changes.

Another benifit, this way noob players get a bigger chance to change to play with another gun.

1/7 is about 14% forceclass. That's between the 25% and 10% that is discussed here. I'm just thinking out loud here. I hope that's ok.

Whatever is or gets decided, I will keep on playing on BCD. I'm a very big fan of the concept.
Title: Re: What's the agreement about forceclassing?
Post by: Southofheaven on Friday, April 10, 2015, 16:15:57 PM
I have no opinion on forceclass... You can give me m9 i dont care :) i just want All you guys in the servers having fun like i do.  :up: i dont forceclass i dont even put the files since my last format c: :) so whatever you guys decide im fine whit that. Just show up have fun and bring enjoyment beer and if isnt too much to ask can u please bring girls too.  :style: