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Offline rainmaker

Please consider unbanning Joe131
« on: Saturday, October 05, 2024, 13:07:38 PM »
Like Yaya, I have also been playing with Joe for over 20 years. I had no idea that people still played this game until someone told me that Joe still played. I, like many others, came back to play with Joe only to find out that he was banned. Now as far as the insults go, sure. Whatever he he said was probably no worse than what he's said to me in the past but we live in a new politically correct world and Joe can learn to be more careful about insulting people during arguments.

But apparently he was banned for using someone's name which I find confusing. Doxxing is about making private personal information public. Generally our names are meant to be shared. Do Starbucks employees doxx their customers when they call out their name to pick up their drink order? If I go to Starbucks and give them Joe's name then am I doxxing Joe?

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Re: Please consider unbanning Joe131
« Reply #1 on: Sunday, October 06, 2024, 06:23:28 AM »
I will quote from Wikipedia]:
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Doxing or doxxing is the act of publicly providing personally identifiable information about an individual or organization, usually via the Internet and without their consent.

When you tell the Starbucks employee a name (be it yours or someone else's) you effectively give them consent to use it within the context of the current interaction (i.e buying a coffee or whatever). You do not consent for further use of your name.

But what has happened in this context with Joe is that he had not been given any consent to use the name in public.

The other main difference is that - for better or for worse - people online enjoy an amount of implicit privacy. They don't tend to use their real name. Whereas in public you do. It's a different situation.

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Re: Please consider unbanning Joe131
« Reply #2 on: Monday, October 07, 2024, 18:15:07 PM »
Joe retrieved the name from a public chat related to AA. So the name was already provided and it was already public which means there cannot be a expectation of privacy. And can you publicly provide something that is already publicly available? Perhaps, but it's debatable.

What isn't debatable is that using the exact definition of that Wikipedia quote means that it is doxxing to introduce a friend to other people at a party without getting their consent first.

But I think it is clear that neither situation falls under the intended meaning of doxxing.

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Re: Please consider unbanning Joe131
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, October 08, 2024, 03:26:42 AM »
Joe retrieved the name from a public chat related to AA. So the name was already provided and it was already public which means there cannot be a expectation of privacy. And can you publicly provide something that is already publicly available? Perhaps, but it's debatable.

What isn't debatable is that using the exact definition of that Wikipedia quote means that it is doxxing to introduce a friend to other people at a party without getting their consent first.

But I think it is clear that neither situation falls under the intended meaning of doxxing.
You are plain wrong.

I will lock this thread. Nothing will come out of it.
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Re: Please consider unbanning Joe131
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, October 16, 2024, 01:10:20 AM »
I also just want to be clear here. We don't care if it technically meets the definition of doxxing or not, it's very fucked up all the same and we're punishing the action of what he did, completely independent of any definition.

 

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