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America's Army => Anti-Cheat => Ban Appeals => Topic started by: qk1z on Friday, February 19, 2016, 14:24:00 PM

Title: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: qk1z on Friday, February 19, 2016, 14:24:00 PM
Hello,
I bought a mouse a4tech V8M. I installed the program bloody 5. When you turn on AA 2.5 flashed me a message (see Annex) (https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg922%2F8110%2F2LPnEY.jpg&hash=0a6b50258da9ba2803f0393bc4a90d62). Is the fault of the software? Do I have to uninstall bloody5 and play on standard mouse drivers?
Please hint what to do and download BANA - gentlemen - is the weekend ...

Sry for my language, i used google translator :)
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: qk1z on Friday, February 19, 2016, 14:27:11 PM
my aaotracker
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/364692/%5B%3DPSF%3D%5Dqk1z%252B/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/364692/%5B%3DPSF%3D%5Dqk1z%252B/)
my id in game [=PSF]qk1z+
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Friday, February 19, 2016, 14:39:41 PM
You used a mouse macro that came with the "driver".
You tried to run Bloody5.exe with Assist to be able to use the macro, it didn't let you (it even notified you of it). You figured you'd change the process name to get past that and then you got caught.

You knew what you were doing and you knew it wasn't allowed. The way I see it, you're getting off easy.

Just to clarify, it's not the use of a mouse's software we banned you for, it's the use of the macro to gain an advantage.

EDIT
Refer to
[=PSF=]qk1z+
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/364692/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/364692/)
First Macro ban, 1 week HW ban, permanent ban on the BT account.

In a week the user can create a new account, try and login and then post an appeal, we will then activate the new account(And your Hardware)
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: qk1z on Friday, February 19, 2016, 14:52:00 PM
If I knew what the consequences will be, I would not do it. I did it unconsciously. I went to AA after 10 years of interruption. I have too many years to play in the cheating. From the top you assume that I knew. No, I did not know.
Therefore I ask for help, and not on attacking me.

Bloody5 already I uninstalled. Please help me what to do.

Edit. I understand that on two accounts [= PSF =] qk1z + (previously played on the account th23q) I'll never be able to play ?!


Sorry for the mess in topics
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Friday, February 19, 2016, 14:54:38 PM
The account that the macro was detected on was the one I linked to in the quote. That's the one that will be banned permanently.

After the week is up, you need to make a forum post and the ban on your computer will be lifted. You will then be able to play with other accounts you own.
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: qk1z on Friday, February 19, 2016, 15:01:34 PM
My God ... my main account banned permanently ... I really can not unban it? Write somewhere ... Forgive my ignorance, but I understand that account [= PSF =] qk1z + and on my honor, I can forget? You break me down. If I knew... :/

So 26.02. I will write a post about unlocking.
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: Bart! on Saturday, February 20, 2016, 03:28:31 AM
Sorry for intervening, but if you had bloody5 running, you would've gotten a warning that you had to turn this off.

Instead you changed the full name of the program which is an attempt to circumvent the system,and you still used a macro.

And why did you buy that mouse anyways? Because of the macro functions? Because that mouse is not worth it's money in any other way.

Imo, circumventing the checks is already a good reason for the ban, using that macro with it just makes it worse.
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: qk1z on Saturday, February 20, 2016, 05:50:02 AM
Sorry for intervening, but if you had bloody5 running, you would've gotten a warning that you had to turn this off.

Instead you changed the full name of the program which is an attempt to circumvent the system,and you still used a macro.

And why did you buy that mouse anyways? Because of the macro functions? Because that mouse is not worth it's money in any other way.

Imo, circumventing the checks is already a good reason for the ban, using that macro with it just makes it worse
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: qk1z on Saturday, February 20, 2016, 05:51:27 AM
I bought this mouse because of the low cost (my mouse office simply broke down). And the fact that I play on a laptop, I found that I do not need Deathadera or some expensive Logitech. I'm not an expert on the equipment, I do not know the function macros (if you want we can talk about any other industry - economic).

I just installed the software bloody5 as I install most drivers bought new equipment.

Yes, I getting a warning. Then I turned off the bloody5. The next day when I turned on AA, got BAN. You know what was the reason? Because when you start the system had the option selected by default - enable the system start Bloody5.
I did not notice it.

I do not know how much time you're playing in AA, I started my adventure with version 2.2 AA AA Polish scene actively took part in catching cheaters. Since then a lot has changed (there were macra, which simply did not know).

I just want you to know that I did it automatically and with complete unconsciousness.
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: Bart! on Saturday, February 20, 2016, 08:57:15 AM
I also started in 2.2

But you did run bloody5 first, your game shut down, simple, but the reason you were banned is NOT because you simply had bloody5 running, it was because you renamed the file so the process list would show another name, and then also used it as we also detected macro usage.
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: qk1z on Saturday, February 20, 2016, 12:11:47 PM
I havn't changed any file name. Just on that I do not know. Apparently you know more than I do. I understand that you have such a role, to see in each suspected culprit(gilty?). You may think so. I'm guilty that I used the software bloody5. If I knew that this software will create a problem, I'm sure I wouldn't have installed. For the ignorance to pay, so now I suffer for it.
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: Bart! on Sunday, February 21, 2016, 03:39:15 AM
We can keep having this discussion, but your average shots per second was higher as humanly possible to click. This combined with bloody5 running with another name makes 1+1=2
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: qk1z on Sunday, February 21, 2016, 07:07:06 AM

What can I do? Don't use the mouse at all a4tech V8M? Even if bloody5 is not installed, changing its can (using single-shot mode) by a triple shot (https://www.google.pl/search?q=a4tech+v8m&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjnzs7F6IjLAhWGKnIKHYY5DdQQ_AUIBygB&biw=1366&bih=657#imgrc=OD0Y4dCtusVLtM%3A). What solution do you propose?
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: qk1z on Sunday, February 21, 2016, 07:09:23 AM
Look at this picture (https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg921%2F5139%2F4IyuY3.png&hash=29a2263ec7bb3a09745ee0d458c34b56).
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: qk1z on Sunday, February 21, 2016, 07:14:42 AM
3 shooting mod works even without software bloody 5. What about the issue of changing the mouse sensitivity in the game? Also it is prohibited if it is done with the mouse?
Title: Re: Ban - by mouse?
Post by: Bart! on Sunday, February 21, 2016, 07:33:03 AM
so the macro is build inside the mouse, guess you did buy the mouse to get an edge over other players with normal mouse?

Maybe I should buy a screen with build-in wallhack in that case, as it's in the screen then, no software needed.

Just making an overexaggerated example to show you what the grey area is.
The ONLY reason to use that button is to get an advantage over others who can't click that fast, so you use something outside of the game parameters to gain an advantage over others, just like having double action keybinds, macros etc. Just because it's "build-in" doesn't make it less unfair. You tried to gain an edge over others, which can result in higher  stats, which are gained unfair, so we let you pay for it and let you make a new account, so you can get the stats fair again.

No more need for discussion.