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America's Army => Anti-Cheat => Background Checks => Topic started by: zoxee on Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 00:48:16 AM
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This guy was on def on pipe, shot 6 guys in a row without even reloading his M16.
hs-hs-hs-hs-hs-hs (did i forget one ?..), and has a bad habbit of glancing at walls.
Someone know him ?
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/819469/Madison_Bumgarner/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/819469/Madison_Bumgarner/)
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Ya that is -aud.jonny- Probably the best NA competition player to ever play the game...
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Sometimes it's necessary to look around in order to hear where sounds are coming from. Most of the times you find your self looking at something such as a wall. As far as the issue of using 30 bullets or less to take out six players... Next time screen shot something like that if you can. On our servers I can assure you logs will be checked just as a precaution. Our servers are monitored pretty much around the clock. We are however in the process of increasing our own security and working on methods to help prevent cheaters from joining Honor Servers in general.
Here are some 6 month old videos that show two specific cheats in question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C32JLLG821Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3tKq-SDKDI
What people are doing is finding the source for the old cheats and compiling them to work with assist.
The recent updates have patched a large majority of the cheats found. But that doesn't mean they cant change the source around to adapt to the patches. Read the comments on the second video about antipoke.u
Can anyone confirm that these specific cheats have been patched with anyone of the new updates?
We are however in the process of increasing our own security as well as implementing a few methods to obstruct cheaters from using not only are servers but any honor server (authorized servers).
As of now the current ban system is rather pointless. All one has to do is make a new name and change their ip address. Which is very simple to do regardless wither the ip address is static (dedicated) or dynamic.
One idea is to implement a reward system for unauthorized servers and encourage cheating to be done there. If your eyebrows are raised you should be more open minded! This is not a 100% solution in anyway but is based on a trust system. Most of the cheaters in the game are compiling the cheats themselves and privately giving them to their friends or selling them for minimal profit. It does take some skill to know how to read and write code so these individuals are very intelligent. Why not focus the initiative on encouraging them to contribute to this community and not the one found at knownhacks.you. Their AAO 2.5 forums have increased in recent months. What they do not understand is they are slowly killing the game and the community. Then once that happens they will just go off and find another game they can cheat on. It's funny too because they really like playing the game. Why else would they return?
As a non contributing member of the community :)which will change if given the opportunity(:
I personally think a group within Assist that deals with security and security only. That way progress can get done with assist because it seems to be all this antipoke.u and pb config updates are wasting valuable time and resources. Maybe i'm wrong and there is already is a team devoted to security...
I just want to see the damn mission editor implemented already!
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Ya that is -aud.jonny- Probably the best NA competition player to ever play the game...
Well then it's all magic i guess... because if you do a little calculation, it looks like this:
Let's say he had all his mag full and his gun was on burst (3 bullets)
30-(6*3) = 12 / 3 = 4 bursts left
But if his mag was already diminished, that takes up his accuracy to levels only one can
dream of...
Anyways, :lock: this topic then...
One idea is to implement a reward system for unauthorized servers and encourage cheating to be done there.
This is like saying : let's encourage the use of heroine Injections as long as they take place in a hospital.
Doing such thing wouldn't appeal to cheaters, because they don't have fun crossing blades among themselves.
What they like is to go on normal servers and pwn straightforward players and make them feel useless.
If they are such intelligent guys, they should programm software for the financial sector instead of this shit.
Or burn.
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Seems to me that most NA players an European players and to some extent Brazillian player are exceptional players. This is because of what? Do they have more powerfull pc's or better connection? Dont tell me its all skill. What is it? They play on American servers with high ping and kick ass? WTF?
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They play on American servers with high ping and kick ass? WTF?
I don't to be rude but 99% of the US players suck really bad, that's why most of euro players who play on us servers "kick ass", and most of your servers are modded which give you even more advantage...
Jonny obviously isn't one of them...
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I don't to be rude but 99% of the US players suck really bad, that's why most of euro players who play on us servers "kick ass", and most of your servers are modded which give you even more advantage...
Jonny obviously isn't one of them...
yea come to havok server see who kicks whos ass and i dont do too bad playn on euros servers either,
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Ya-who ? smartassing my threads again... i almost missed it.
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macros speed up some weapons, I'm sure some NA pro use "macros", I have a demo of aud vs k7 where some players had macros enabled(high and annoying sound when the gun is empty).
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macros speed up some weapons, I'm sure some NA pro use "macros", I have a demo of aud vs k7 where some players had macros enabled(high and annoying sound when the gun is empty).
who?
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a demo of aud vs k7 where some players had macros enabled
Very interesting indeed :idea: ...
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zoxee terrible calling cheats on good players. typical.
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zoxee terrible calling cheats on good players. typical.
U better go back to your AHK sandbox nub, coz i happened to be on your team
when u got flashed and shot ur mag empty until ur gun emitted that so special
ratting sound :mad:
If u can't play straight go fuck yourself if u ask me.
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Most of the cheaters in the game are compiling the cheats themselves and privately giving them to their friends or selling them for minimal profit. It does take some skill to know how to read and write code so these individuals are very intelligent. Why not focus the initiative on encouraging them to contribute to this community and not the one found at knownhacks.you. Their AAO 2.5 forums have increased in recent months. What they do not understand is they are slowly killing the game and the community. Then once that happens they will just go off and find another game they can cheat on. It's funny too because they really like playing the game. Why else would they return?
This is very true, I did read funny comments in their cheating communities back in the days. However I wouldn't say that they all are intelligent ; it just takes knowledge - but then some really are when it comes to finding workarounds to get their cheats to work. People who ruin the game aren't hackers for real... rather people who use it. Because what hackers truely love is getting their hack to work... once it works they don't whore the game... retards that don't know squat about hacking do.
As for your idea of rewarding hackers and trying to make them play on a cheat server, I'm not sure it'd work. I remember back in 2005 there was a server on WC where hackers would play against each others (to see who had the best hack). And it was damn fun to see them play, or play against (killing one with a hack is rewarding when you don't have one ^^)but now I'm not sure they'd be interested since I doubt there are many people "working" on AA.
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who?
idk the names lol
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idk the names lol
How much ? :D
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I don't wonder why you don't remeber the names. They are totally unknowns.
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Can anyone confirm that these specific cheats have been patched with anyone of the new updates?
That way progress can get done with assist because it seems to be all this antipoke.u and pb config updates are wasting valuable time and resources. Maybe i'm wrong and there is already is a team devoted to security...
Our system may not be perfect but we are banning people each day, so it's proof it's working.
Banned today:
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/827831/ Reason=HonorHack.u
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/404957/ Reason=AntiPoke Hacking, bPerfectAccuracy
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/469774/ Reason=TRIXNICE AIMBOT
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/567896/ Reason=TRIXNICE AIMBOT
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U better go back to your AHK sandbox nub, coz i happened to be on your team
when u got flashed and shot ur mag empty until ur gun emitted that so special
ratting sound :mad:
If u can't play straight go fuck yourself if u ask me.
I know for a fact that your gun glitches when firing sometimes, such that it jams, then clicks rapidly. Although your gun is "jammed" and no muzzle flash is emitted, rounds continue to hit your target rapidly. Once you let of the trigger, your gun is just jammed. There is another randomly occurring glitch that causes you to fire every round in your magazine in a fraction of a second. Both of these have happened to me more than a few times. I don't know what causes it, but it isn't a cheat. If they banned him on this by taking your word for it, they would have banned a legit player.
Keep reporting people you find suspicious, but don't assert that they are guilty and get into arguments with them.
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When you get a jam, sometimes the bullets keep firing (without sound) indeed, but never infinitely (in my experience at least). For me it always ends up a jam in like 6-9 bullets in without sound.
As for the second bug there again is no sound. It's really irritating when I get that bug because with no sound and no recoil I don't even understand that I'm firing and then whoop all of a sudden I'm out of bullets.
But I don't believe neither of them causes the ratting sound that's talked about in here (well I don't really know about the first bug) as in the first one (I think) the bullets still come out (therefore there should be no "click") and in the second one I believe others just hear your gun fire rounds faster than usual.
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When you get a jam, sometimes the bullets keep firing (without sound) indeed, but never infinitely (in my experience at least). For me it always ends up a jam in like 6-9 bullets in without sound.
As for the second bug there again is no sound. It's really irritating when I get that bug because with no sound and no recoil I don't even understand that I'm firing and then whoop all of a sudden I'm out of bullets.
But I don't believe neither of them causes the ratting sound that's talked about in here (well I don't really know about the first bug) as in the first one (I think) the bullets still come out (therefore there should be no "click") and in the second one I believe others just hear your gun fire rounds faster than usual.
I can confirm that the gun jam glitch does make the rattling sound. It has happened to me quite a few times playing on Pipe. It's just the jam click being repeated in rapid succession.
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I know, that's what you hear, but I would think the enemy hears bullets. I think that because this has happened to me like tens of times and I would guess it has happened to enemies that kill me at least a couple of times as well, but I don't recall hearing click-click-click and dying.
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nope, they were kidding at mission planning round :)
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I know, that's what you hear, but I would think the enemy hears bullets. I think that because this has happened to me like tens of times and I would guess it has happened to enemies that kill me at least a couple of times as well, but I don't recall hearing click-click-click and dying.
Ah, I see what you mean. i don't know, then.
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Keep reporting people you find suspicious, but don't assert that they are guilty and get into arguments with them.
I may be old but i'm still able to make the # between the sound of a jamming gun and that of a pimped one.
Thx though for your "technical" insight, pointless but interesting.
Oh and btw, if i remember well you used to defend the TheBlackGinger with nails and tails
against my accusations of him cheating. As we all know by now, TBG is not only hacking
but proudly exposes his "epic fights" on Youtube where he even has his own channel.
I would therefore appreciate if you would refrain from commenting any of my allegations
in the future, because your judgement definitely stinks :down:
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Seeing as the click the gun does when it runs out of ammo is exactly the same as when it jams, I don't think it's possible to tell what's triggering the noise.
Unless of course that rattling you were talking about was something other than an empty gun click, in which case I really don't know what you're talking about.
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What you don't get is that the noise his gun made neither is the noise
of an empty mag nor that of a fixjam as i already said.
Moreover i cannot predict when somebody's gonna ratt or not.
Otherwise i would have recorded it so u could hear it.
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I may be old but i'm still able to make the # between the sound of a jamming gun and that of a pimped one.
Thx though for your "technical" insight, pointless but interesting.
Oh and btw, if i remember well you used to defend the TheBlackGinger with nails and tails
against my accusations of him cheating. As we all know by now, TBG is not only hacking
but proudly exposes his "epic fights" on Youtube where he even has his own channel.
I would therefore appreciate if you would refrain from commenting any of my allegations
in the future, because your judgement definitely stinks :down:
I wasn't specifically defending TBG, I was against banning without evidence. They found evidence and they banned him... Either way, that has nothing to do with this conversation. The point is: quit being an ass.
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Someone please delete this thread. Thanks.
Rule #1 Don't ask for the deletion of threads which u didn't start = Mind ur own business
Your sense of entitlement is astoundingly absurd.
Rule #2 Stop spamming threads (especially mines) with that nerd language of yours
If you can't be patient, then you fix it.
Rule #3 Stop being an ass to others urself
And while you're at it why don't you STFU for a change coz i'm really tired of you spamming
every thread around just coz u kind of bored. U was absent from this place for months and
now you are starting your favourite shit again although you barely have somethin to say.
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jonny was one of the best overall players to ever touch this game. stop crying and stay on your euro servers
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please go back to call of duty.
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jonny was one of the best overall players to ever touch this game
Im sorry to disappoint you but he doesn't even fit the top5...
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Im sorry to disappoint you but he doesn't even fit the top5...
who are you again? any invite leveled team that played during aa2 will tell you jon was good. how many matches have you played? " yahoo " rings no bells. I mean if you gotta come under some alter ego name even if you where a semi known player you must be a terrible idiot.
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I'm laughing hard when I read that small head big ass americas cheeseburgers.
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Message from Madison Bumgarner aka Chief Jonny aka Commander of Audigy aka Weird Animal:
"Thanks for the entertainment soldiers, but how about getting rid of the terrible sf mods. A joint coalition formed by commander Jonny of Audigy and commander Scarface of overRated have reached a conclusion of imposing what will henceforth be known as the Thermite Doctrine. While it saddens us that such spiteful means of destruction have become a primary method of choice, it is a decision for the greater good of the AAO 2.5 Assist society as a whole. However, once Pipeline is relieved from its weapon modded degenerate state, this joint coalition will consider an executive order establishing a sense of mercy to the masses.
This guy was on def on pipe, shot 6 guys in a row without even reloading his M16.
hs-hs-hs-hs-hs-hs (did i forget one ?..), and has a bad habbit of glancing at walls.
Someone know him ?
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/819469/Madison_Bumgarner/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/819469/Madison_Bumgarner/)
I apologize for turning your team into the Detroit Tigers.
Don't get bitter, get better!"
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Message from Madison Bumgarner aka Chief Jonny aka Commander of Audigy aka Weird Animal:
"Thanks for the entertainment soldiers, but how about getting rid of the terrible sf mods. A joint coalition formed by commander Jonny of Audigy and commander Scarface of overRated have reached a conclusion of imposing what will henceforth be known as the Thermite Doctrine. While it saddens us that such spiteful means of destruction have become a primary method of choice, it is a decision for the greater good of the AAO 2.5 Assist society as a whole. However, once Pipeline is relieved from its weapon modded degenerate state, this joint coalition will consider an executive order establishing a sense of mercy to the masses.
I apologize for turning your team into the Detroit Tigers.
Don't get bitter, get better!"
I want to join this Squadron of Super Soliders.
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there is only way how to sttle this beef....find a server where both sides would get ping below 30 and than make a war.this talks r just useless crap.
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Proton, i never said he wasn't good, but he isn't near of US best players and after a quick thought i said top 5, but make it top15...
But you know what, ask your friend Epic or even Scarface i'm sure they will tell you a story about a guy called banana gun or madd, etc, etc, etc...
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Proton, i never said he wasn't good, but he isn't near of US best players and after a quick thought i said top 5, but make it top15...
But you know what, ask your friend Epic or even Scarface i'm sure they will tell you a story about a guy called banana gun or madd, etc, etc, etc...
Bg cheated and madd was awful, madd was so scared to peek me or Jon on ic he looked like a fool using the 203 on defense. And rendered him self useless to his great squad named iog
Based on those two names alone you listed you are not allowed to deem a top list of na players,I mean what's next rabb is #1? He must be based on how your list is going.
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are we really arguing about rating players on this dead game? lawl... good news is, shouldnt take long, prolly less than 100 active US players anyways.
on a side note thou, would be nice to quit tracking modded servers... or just plain get rid of em.