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Title: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 17:03:20 PM
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/826272/

100% no recoil, no doubt about it
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: noobslayer on Friday, July 12, 2013, 17:12:37 PM
Might aswell check his other clanmembers
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: zoxee on Friday, July 12, 2013, 17:15:12 PM
I confirm  :(

damn... so many
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: exception on Friday, July 12, 2013, 17:19:04 PM
How is there no doubt about it? I'm playing with him right now and he's decent but nothing amazing.

Edit: In fact, he's just flash camping and random door camping me to kill me.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: noobslayer on Friday, July 12, 2013, 17:26:15 PM
How is there no doubt about it? I'm playing with him right now and he's decent but nothing amazing.

no recoil has nothing to do with being ''decent'', just check out his weapon and you'll notice if this guy is right
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 17:28:15 PM
i have a FPV of about 9-10 kills, currently uploading, looking back on them it confirms my suspicions even more, im sorry if you know him, or he is a friend, but i can honestly say he has no recoil, in some of these clips its just so obvious, please wait for this video to upload, i used fraps so i may take a while.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: exception on Friday, July 12, 2013, 17:37:20 PM
I don't really know how you can tell. There is no gun or dot. Good aim comes with controlling recoil. Not defending him if he is, but I really don't think he is.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 17:40:13 PM
Dont see why it concerns you so much, i have my point, my proof is on its way, and im awaiting jury, dont get annoyed, if hes not a hacker, then i will eat my hat.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: exception on Friday, July 12, 2013, 17:53:12 PM
it only concerns me because I feel for false accusations. Been getting pretty harassed lately and I would want someone to do the same for me too if a ban was pending and they think I'm innocent. I guess I will reserve judgement until I see the videos.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: noobslayer on Friday, July 12, 2013, 17:56:31 PM
I don't really know how you can tell. There is no gun or dot. Good aim comes with controlling recoil. Not defending him if he is, but I really don't think he is.

it's actually pretty easy to see if someone has no recoil
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Yahoo on Friday, July 12, 2013, 17:57:59 PM
I'm not saying he's guilty or innocent but since they quit mods, i feel players are complanning a lot about cheats, guess the game just got harder for someone...  :P
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: exception on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:01:36 PM
i feel players are complanning a lot about cheats, guess the game just got harder for someone...  :P
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:02:29 PM
Not at all, i have no complaints, im having fun, i was even on his team so i was not dying, i just dont wanna play with people who are cheating, this is black and white.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: minininja on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:13:48 PM
hurry up i wanna see the video!
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:19:49 PM
haha i wanna show you, 2 more mins to upload, when he rushes main ent, you can see 100% there is no recoil in that gun
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: IGC Wolf^ on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:20:57 PM
If hes a cheater, he is crap in cheating, what if he would play normally? he would be the first to die.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:22:28 PM
Look at this whole thing since it started, im not one to accuse without a fair amount of proof, i watched him for at least 30 mins, and each time i came to the same conclusion, so i decided to start to record him, as i wanted physical proof.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: IGC Wolf^ on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:24:37 PM
Now what we should do is record our gameplays if u find a cheater so there is proof in no recoil:P
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:26:17 PM
what i do is if i suspect someone, watch them if they are alive when i die for a bit, if i have reason to go on, ill record there gameplay for a while, if im certain after reviewing the footage, ill submit it here.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:36:26 PM
here we go, look for the no recoil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxlmmw98M1A
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxlmmw98M1A[/youtube]
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: IGC Wolf^ on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:48:57 PM
To be honest I was enjoying watching:)

No recoil at:

(all video) lmao at 0:50 u can already see hes gun not spreading lol not moving from spread its obvious no recoil and at 0:40 :P, wait actually in all of hes kills

what video capture u used?
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:50:00 PM
I can only see no recoil for sure on is very last kill and still, he could be using scope...
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:50:22 PM
i though i would put the clips together, they are all un edited, and all singular, there was more than this that i witnessed, this is all i had on video, which was a good enough quality to present to you.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:51:21 PM
So main ent kill has recoil ?
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: IGC Wolf^ on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:52:18 PM
what video capture u used? sony vegas?
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:54:19 PM
FRAPS lol. please be aware this is after i had already told him i was videoing him, he was trying to mimic recoil at some parts, but the main entrance clip and the very last clip, are 100% no recoil, you cant get any more proof than this, watch it over and over again as i have, there i no recoil in this gun.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Yahoo on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:54:33 PM
You can see the recoil when he kills at south outside, the only thing i can see is that stupid prone bug...
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:56:09 PM
did you read my last comment?
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Possessed on Friday, July 12, 2013, 18:58:14 PM
lol, he only moves when theres a 100% kill chance, weird.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 19:01:54 PM
I would not come here to accuse with out being certain, please understand this, i was watching him before i started to record him obviously, he has no recoil for sure, just watch the videos over and over, if you ask 82nd for there chat logs, i said to him before i even started recording, 'Lol.... nice recoil....0.0', and he was ignoring me, so i started to record him, watch the main ent clip over and over, there is 100% no recoil in that clip, these people who use this mimic the games recoil after the kill, to seem legit, they all slip up, thats why i captured his screen, and you can see at time, he slipped up. this is a cheat user, and i would bet my sister on it :).
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: IGC Wolf^ on Friday, July 12, 2013, 19:08:27 PM
try watching in slow motion maybe it will help for admins do decide
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 19:14:09 PM
These recording were taking during this session

12.07.2013   
82nd ABD Dallas #2 Pipeline Honor Server
Pipeline
1,030
54   
12   
4.50   
01h 00m
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Possessed on Friday, July 12, 2013, 19:16:18 PM
->One of his accounts: http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/816716/
->http://battletracker.com/clanstats/aao/29437/
->Clan mate-> http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/164263/ has past AA2 bans.
->http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/9528/omc9.png
has IP links to other banned accounts (I checked the Link Info).

->More Accounts:
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/824437/
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/833077/
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/828989/
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/818270/
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Friday, July 12, 2013, 19:18:53 PM
Thanks for your help doing the BG checks and stuff, i had no idea, or clue how to do that, i just play the game lol, at least someone agrees with me, i have no doubt he was using a no recoil cheat. i have video evidence.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Ganja on Friday, July 12, 2013, 20:27:57 PM
I'd say he has no recoil. Sometimes it seems like he has recoil, but it's just him moving his mouse, otherwise I think it's prettyy clear, bit still my opinion
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: exception on Friday, July 12, 2013, 20:59:31 PM
I remain unconvinced but I don't know why he has so many accounts. He seems to be a defense whore and a decent player which would explain the high k/d's. When I entered I heard someone saying he wasn't very good on assault and like I said he was flash camping me (low skill/necessity to shoot accurate). The north pump room kill in particular seems very typical. Just stating my opinion. Lawyers wouldn't be necessary if their was only a prosecutor and no defense  :)

Edit: Also, it's tough to say when there isn't a "good player with recoil" video to compare.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: zoxee on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:33:46 PM
obvious / ban
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Possessed on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 02:28:18 AM
Edit: Also, it's tough to say when there isn't a "good player with recoil" video to compare.
make a video for us :D
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: noobslayer on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 04:34:13 AM
i thought i read some where johnny would bring back the no recoil???????  like in the old version

how boring would that be, sniper with no recoil = instant kill
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Bart! on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 06:11:46 AM
I can only see no recoil for sure on is very last kill and still, he could be using scope...
my thought exactly. it's hard to say without the dot.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: KARI-30 on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 06:27:48 AM
The main and last kill really look like he has no recoil. Doubt that he was zoomed in the main kill. In the last he probably was.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Mixk on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 08:20:52 AM
how boring would that be, sniper with no recoil = instant kill
Granted the .50 Barrett recoils like a small mule, but at least the recoil could be some what realistic on the rest of the sniper rifles. LOL I have shot rifles chambered  from .22 short to .458 Win. Mag  and have never experienced anything like AA would lead you to believe the sniper rifles recoil.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 08:48:02 AM
Is it NSD or NSDAP clan?
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 10:43:55 AM
I cant pass judgement on the other clan mates, they have high frag rates, but i dont make judgement on background or clans, i look at the individual player that the present time, innocent untill proven guilty, but this guy has no excuse now, he has been caught fair and simple.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 10:52:24 AM
On this Pipeline vs me he could make 1/10 max. Loser McDonald's.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Ganja on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:06:32 AM
On this Pipeline vs me he could make 1/10 max. Loser McDonald's.

You stopped AA, let's forget about you :D
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: krIz+ on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 13:57:55 PM
sry i didnt see no recoil in this vid
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:34:37 PM
Any one who cannot see the no recoil in main entrance needs the eyes tested, and there heads examined.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: exception on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:41:16 PM
make a video for us :D
I would but that doesn't work because you would see my gun and dot/sights. Someone else would have to record.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Bart! on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:01:31 PM
Any one who cannot see the no recoil in main entrance needs the eyes tested, and there heads examined.
oh I'm sorry, I forgot you were all-knowing about how AA and spectate mode works.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: insidiae on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:22:06 PM
He's legit, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: krIz+ on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:42:04 PM
This guy is real pro. Movement, game sense,recoil control - everything about him tells me, he used to be invite.  And you haters - you can go suck my dick.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:44:22 PM
If he is legit, i believe i owe someone my sister :P
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:46:30 PM
he used to be invite.

to bukkake with 5 euro-asian blond haired black homies with horse dicks.

Harlem shake with his cheeseburger pussy.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: nsd[jayy] on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:59:29 PM
I cant pass judgement on the other clan mates, they have high frag rates, but i dont make judgement on background or clans, i look at the individual player that the present time, innocent untill proven guilty, but this guy has no excuse now, he has been caught fair and simple.

Whenever you spectate a player in first person and if that player is using iron sights it is really hard to determine if the gun has recoil or not. A video like that doesn't prove anything, it would have actually been somewhat better off, if you had recorded him in third person. Even then you wouldn't find anything because fanatic is an exceptional player and obviously everyone will think I am favoring him just because we're in the same team but sorry bob, I don't see how he has been "caught fair and simple".
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:59:39 PM
to bukkake with 5 euro-asian blond haired black homies with horse dicks.

Harlem shake with his cheeseburger pussy.

 :shock:
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Possessed on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 16:04:11 PM
I played with these 2 guys,
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/163295/
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/803894/

high FR, but, compare, one took 2hrs to get 53 kills while fanatic took 1h, these 2 were playing safe and they mostly used G, while fanatic just had lots of accurate shots. braindamage even gave me some tips on how to handle recoil :)
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 16:04:32 PM
@JAY

I said he looks like he has no recoil, that is a fact, as you can see from what i seen, it does look like that, I have also said innocent until proven guilty, i posted here to ask for a 2nd opinion, there are a few people against and a few people for, i have nothing against your clan, or anything, but i think this is what to do if you suspect someone, you can see my point though, im not an expert cheat catcher, but i cant see any recoil in his gun, i watched him for about 20 mins before i was recording, and was super suspicious, you may defend you clanmate, as you would, but i have my opinion, i do know about the difference between live and spectator view, just thought id record his shit to look back on, and looking back i still believe he was using a recoil cheat.

Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: krIz+ on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 16:50:03 PM
@JAY

I said he looks like he has no recoil, that is a fact, as you can see from what i seen, it does look like that, I have also said innocent until proven guilty, i posted here to ask for a 2nd opinion, there are a few people against and a few people for, i have nothing against your clan, or anything, but i think this is what to do if you suspect someone, you can see my point though, im not an expert cheat catcher, but i cant see any recoil in his gun, i watched him for about 20 mins before i was recording, and was super suspicious, you may defend you clanmate, as you would, but i have my opinion, i do know about the difference between live and spectator view, just thought id record his shit to look back on, and looking back i still believe he was using a recoil cheat.
thanks god you didnt played competitive aa, you'd make videos forever
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:20:33 PM
games are for fun, i dont mind getting killed, since when does someone jump on the bandwagon and start being a dickhead when someone is trying to keep the game clean, maybe hes not a cheater, but maybe the next one will be, win some lose some, stop being a moany cunt and move on, get a grip of your life. Pro gamers lmao, whats pro about pressing WASD and clicking your mouse, a games a game.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:28:22 PM
games are for fun, i dont mind getting killed, since when does someone jump on the bandwagon and start being a dickhead when someone is trying to keep the game clean, maybe hes not a cheater, but maybe the next one will be, win some lose some, stop being a moany cunt and move on, get a grip of your life. Pro gamers lmao, whats pro about pressing WASD and clicking your mouse, a games a game.

Much people can reach their ambitions by playing video games only.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: zoxee on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:29:32 PM
Pro gamers lmao, whats pro about pressing WASD and clicking your mouse, a games a game.

i guess krIz+ just tried to tell you that the distance between a real pro's gaming level and yours,
is the same as the distance between the earth and the farest star in the galaxy  :D
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:29:55 PM
I envy those people, i have to work 80 hours a week to pay bills and provide for my family, so the game is a break for me.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:32:23 PM
Im not a noob at this game, ive played since 08, so not as long as everyone else no doubt, but i have tricks and shit too, i got myself the g930s, and all that shit, i aint complaining about players better than me, there are load!, i thought this guy was cheating, maybe i was wrong, dont wanna get into a fight with the 'pros' about recoil control and stuff, if this is all thats going to happen then lock this thread as im getting tired of this moany community lol.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: noobslayer on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:37:04 PM
I envy those people, i have to work 80 hours a week to pay bills and provide for my family, so the game is a break for me.

80 hours a week? not sure if srs

Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:40:30 PM
im in the hotel industry, im serious.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: zoxee on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:41:44 PM
80 hours a week? not sure if srs

he lives on mars, weeks there have 10 days
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: Forgottenbob on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:42:27 PM
i fucking hate you lol, stop taking the piss. this topic is pretty much over.
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: zoxee on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:47:49 PM
i fucking hate you lol, stop taking the piss. this topic is pretty much over.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lr1QwAa2sA[/youtube]
Title: Re: nsd[fanatic]
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:50:49 PM
Enough for now, time will tell now... :lock: