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Title: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: phuNkiii.ops on Saturday, December 13, 2014, 15:28:03 PM
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Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, December 13, 2014, 15:43:13 PM
The jist of it is that it's something you can use to program your mouse. For example, you can set a trigger so that every time you click to fire, the macro also moves your mouse down and left a few pixels to compensate for recoil. Basically, all you have to do is aim at that point and fire without recoil. It can also trigger many more clicks when you click once, causing a faster firing rate. There's many ways where it will give an unfair advantage.
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: Bart! on Saturday, December 13, 2014, 16:00:06 PM
I want to add to that, that mouse macro bans are only issued on those who programmed it to gain advantage by either reducing recoil or shooting faster.

Merely using a thumb button for leaning or something never is an issue of course.
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: Alex on Saturday, December 13, 2014, 16:24:12 PM
Merely using a thumb button for leaning or something never is an issue of course.
That's not a macro, that's a key bind. A macro is a combination of key presses executed on a single key press. In other words, when you press a key (or mouse button) it does a bunch of different key presses with just that one press. So you could have it press left mouse button (default fire in AA) 10 times on just a single mouse click, giving you a faster fire rate.  Or like Spanky said, you could have it adjust the cursor location while firing. That's why it's not allowed.

There's a difference between macros and key binds. Key binds are allowed, macros are not.
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Saturday, December 13, 2014, 16:37:25 PM
That's not a macro, that's a key bind. A macro is a combination of key presses executed on a single key press. In other words, when you press a key (or mouse button) it does a bunch of different key presses with just that one press. So you could have it press left mouse button (default fire in AA) 10 times on just a single mouse click, giving you a faster fire rate.  Or like Spanky said, you could have it adjust the cursor location while firing. That's why it's not allowed.

There's a difference between macros and key binds. Key binds are allowed, macros are not.

Yes, and I'm pretty sure Bart knows that :)
He was just clarifying for those who don't. (there's been threads of the kind)
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Saturday, December 13, 2014, 21:45:33 PM
just a dum question so when seeing players rapidly crouching up and down so fast make me dizzy is that keybind??? or marco
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: LEEFFM on Sunday, December 14, 2014, 02:14:32 AM
most of the time people who do that are just pressing their crouch button a bunch of times while shooting lol
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Sunday, December 14, 2014, 03:15:54 AM
Yes. They used to bind double action keybinds for it, but nowadays we don't allow that.
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: phuNkiii.ops on Sunday, December 14, 2014, 03:41:56 AM
 C=Crouching | onrelease Crouching

so this isnt allowed?
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: Bart! on Sunday, December 14, 2014, 03:53:01 AM
Yes, and I'm pretty sure Bart knows that :)
He was just clarifying for those who don't. (there's been threads of the kind)
Correct :)

@ phunkii: onrelease is CVARed as far as I know, so it's impossible to bind that. but onrelease stand was not allowed, since you bind 2 buttons to one. Was not allowed in TWL either.
Double actions on one key are not allowed, using a say command together with a key is allowed (for example:
2=GrenadeFrag | teamsay Pulling a nade!; this is allowed)
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, December 14, 2014, 06:36:52 AM
Sometimes it's just a reflex, it's like people who lean while they shoot
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, December 14, 2014, 19:07:50 PM
Sometimes it's just a reflex, it's like people who lean while they shoot
Bastards like this always get me. Makes life difficult for those of us without extra mouse buttons.
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Sunday, December 14, 2014, 21:16:12 PM
most of the time people who do that are just pressing their crouch button a bunch of times while shooting lol

Not fast as I've seen players doing it.. not like it helps them there still a easy kill
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: Ganja on Monday, December 15, 2014, 08:15:21 AM
Bastards like this always get me. Makes life difficult for those of us without extra mouse buttons.

Lol it has nothing to do with extra buttons. My mouse is most normal ever, but I've seen myself playing on a screen once and I was doing that crouch/stand thing without even realizing. On my end it's more of a spasm or something like that
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: Spanky on Monday, December 15, 2014, 13:47:54 PM
I've seen myself playing on a screen once
Ganja has gone 3rd 1st person.
Title: Re: whats a mouse macro?
Post by: Ganja on Monday, December 15, 2014, 14:39:42 PM
Ganja has gone 3rd 1st person.

rofl I meant "stream" instead of "screen"