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America's Army => Anti-Cheat => Topic started by: Carmy on Sunday, December 14, 2014, 21:35:17 PM

Title: therealhomedog
Post by: Carmy on Sunday, December 14, 2014, 21:35:17 PM
Can you plz check him?
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/856143/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/856143/)
I play 36 mins and he got  33 kills 4 deaths?? really
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Sunday, December 14, 2014, 22:33:26 PM
I'm pretty sure its not his only account
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Monday, December 15, 2014, 01:21:29 AM
Well they sometimes play from the same house (different PC, but never at the same time with this guy:
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/845805/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/845805/)

Other thant that, it's the only account for the PC's he uses.
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Monday, December 15, 2014, 04:37:21 AM
The cleaner player very fishy game play............I believe him to be dirty
guess in due time they all get caught

I believe I asked you about that fishy player teddy awhile back
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Monday, December 15, 2014, 05:55:58 AM
You might be right, Wickid. But the link I gave right now is just from the same household (or behind a same router anyway). They've never played on the same computer.
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Carmy on Monday, December 15, 2014, 11:11:30 AM
Well I report him to!!
http://aao25.com/forum/background-checks-97/cleaner/ (http://aao25.com/forum/background-checks-97/cleaner/)
But it looked like I was crazy to do that! If it is the same guy I know he is fishy like hell,
Telling  the people that where on the we all sucked. And he is king,,lol  ya ok!! with nice hacks...He has something going on for sure!
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: WraShadow on Monday, December 15, 2014, 12:22:18 PM
I've seen some crazy 5h!7 back in the day and still see some stupid BS but nothing worth mentioning, nothing I can actually define as hacking but this guy made me register. I have no doubt about him.

Kills through walls, doesnt get flashed with flash in his hand but I do on the other side of the door (closed door), shoots north kills south (lol I 5h!7 you not) and the occasional bending but that could be lag and timing related. Other BS could be ignored...

He went from zero to hero, if you see his tracker, like he waited and acquired those hacks. Just saying...

The funny thing is that he said it was his first account and I should know how bullet's work in the game like he played it a lot. LOL
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Ganja on Monday, December 15, 2014, 14:28:57 PM
Kills through walls, doesnt get flashed with flash in his hand but I do on the other side of the door (closed door), shoots north kills south (lol I 5h!7 you not) and the occasional bending but that could be lag and timing related. Other BS could be ignored...

As far as I know, even with hacks you can't shoot through walls. And about not being flashed, I have been accused so many times of this too, and sometimes you just have the right feeling about where to shoot, when to shoot, or where to throw a flash.

I've barely seen him play though so I can't judge. Just saying, be carefull with accusing someone ;)
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Monday, December 15, 2014, 15:13:36 PM
As far as I know, even with hacks you can't shoot through walls. And about not being flashed, I have been accused so many times of this too, and sometimes you just have the right feeling about where to shoot, when to shoot, or where to throw a flash.

I've barely seen him play though so I can't judge. Just saying, be carefull with accusing someone ;)

we''ll when you play online either against or same side, you will be able to see what every one is talking about
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: WraShadow on Monday, December 15, 2014, 15:17:19 PM
Ganja, I dont do this lightly. Like I said, this one bshitter made me register. Look, I get it right? You can do all prefire and stuff but dont tell me you shoot to one side and kill behind you without even turning (which even with aimbot you turn around automatically) or kill your enemy if he is totally inclosed in. You can only do that with hacks... Its not like your super ear or over-the-top precision.

Maybe its not cleaner, he's not that good, even on defense. I know, Im just above average and still kicked his ass many times before. If its him, then its definitively hacks.

For now Im gonna do what someone said: I dont like his playstyle, I "play" on other servers...
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Ganja on Monday, December 15, 2014, 15:21:08 PM
Ganja, I dont do this lightly. Like I said, this one bshitter made me register. Look, I get it right? You can do all prefire and stuff but dont tell me you shoot to one side and kill behind you without even turning (which even with aimbot you turn around automatically) or kill your enemy if he is totally inclosed in. You can only do that with hacks... Its not like your super ear or over-the-top precision.

Maybe its not cleaner, he's not that good, even on defense. I know, Im just above average and still kicked his ass many times before. If its him, then its definitively hacks.

For now Im gonna do what someone said: I dont like his playstyle, I "play" on other servers...

I know the feeling, don't worry. What I'm trying to say is that even with hacks you can't do this kind of stuff, it would be detected way too easily.

You say he shot you while he was looking at the other side, but maybe there were 2 players? You say he shot you when you were not visible, but maybe they were 2 players again? Maybe you got confused or something, happens alot too ;)
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: WraShadow on Monday, December 15, 2014, 15:30:54 PM
Now that's just bad going around basically calling people dumb but I'll be more specific:
Pipeline. At one time I smokes the whole field as best as I could, killed one in vent and he was alone. I was with one idle and I camped South. He was looking somewhere to the north, dont know if it was NSE or North Outside and I got HSd as soon as I fire.

Look, you can do your own hacks. Im a developer myself, I know a bit about how things work. If Im right, the reason these hacks are usually caught is because people find public ones online and the program recognizes excerpts of the code.
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: WraShadow on Monday, December 15, 2014, 15:36:20 PM
btw, even if there were other players like you said, you know I wouldve heard. I cant distinguish height but as far as horizontal direction I can pretty much hear the whole map, in a silent one like that with so few players.
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Monday, December 15, 2014, 15:44:53 PM
I've yet to see a cheat that could shoot through walls. The game just doesn't allow it. Probably the closest thing would be a speedhack combined with aimbot where they would move around the corner, shoot and move back fast enough not to be noticed or something...

Not to bash on anyone here, but I will have to agree with Ganja. And you said you smoked the whole field so there was plenty of noise pollution and someone could have easily sneaked up on you.

And "behind a wall" can also happen, because there are plenty of situation when the enemy can see you while you can't see the enemy. And even if they can't, if they know you're there, a stray ricochet bullet can still hit you (granted, to die from this one would have to be pretty damn hurt prior to this).

All in all, there is nothing suspicious that can be seen by this guy on this end right now. It's highly unlikely he's cheating.
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: WraShadow on Monday, December 15, 2014, 15:54:10 PM
Not to bash on anyone here, but I will have to agree with Ganja. And you said you smoked the whole field so there was plenty of noise pollution and someone could have easily sneaked up on you.
-In which instance did I say it was on the same round?
-He was on the middle of the field

there are plenty of situation when the enemy can see you while you can't see the enemy.
No shit Sherlock. I do that a lot of times... easy example has to do with people using right-hand and lean to the left. Enemy can see the tip of your helmet but you dont even see him.

I know what Ive experienced and the only reason Im here its because Ive never seen anything so fucked up, so unimaginable like this before. Btw, the servers booted him sometimes, if that helps...
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: WraShadow on Monday, December 15, 2014, 15:56:53 PM
I gave my contribution here, do with it as you will. As far as killing 33 or even more people in 36 minutes or whatever she said, is easy so that was never my issue. Ive got work to do and tests to get prepd to. Im out. See you on the battlefield.
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Ganja on Monday, December 15, 2014, 15:59:10 PM
-In which instance did I say it was on the same round?
-He was on the middle of the field

You said you smoked, killed one in vent and then you camped south. Perhaps this guy wasn't the guy watching north, maybe he was somewhere else, where you couldn't hear him because of the smoke ...
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: WraShadow on Monday, December 15, 2014, 16:04:53 PM
You said you smoked, killed one in vent and then you camped south. Perhaps this guy wasn't the guy watching north, maybe he was somewhere else, where you couldn't hear him because of the smoke ...
Did you even read? I said they were two, I killed the other, he was on the middle of the field, I could see him or else I wouldnt have shot like I said. On the moment I press the trackpad to shoot I got HS's.

The smoke was so he couldnt hear me moving to south not to prevent anyone from seeing, they were more blocking view to north from whoever leaves Main Entrance. I thought he'd think I went North and it was working cause he was looking to the vicinity.

But seriously, I g2g. bye.
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Ganja on Monday, December 15, 2014, 16:21:07 PM
Alright I misread my bad. Maybe he has aimbot like you say, maybe he doesn't, time will tell us
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: -[unR]BENDAWICH on Monday, December 15, 2014, 16:24:52 PM
Kudos for being able to use a trackpad to aim, i can barely hit the X on a webpage with a trackpad let alone track something that is moving.
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Bart! on Monday, December 15, 2014, 16:32:56 PM
I'll keep an eye on him, but I have to note one thing:

- flashes and shots are server sided, because of the way it works in this game, flashing and shooting through walls is not possible, the server decides where you are standing, and where your bullets will land if you shoot at a direction. Recoil and aiming at a direction is what the client is doing/seeing.

So: Hacks can
- Aimbot, autoaim, no recoil
- Negate flashes

Hacks can't
- Shoot through walls, flash others through walls


Also points to consider when they shoot you through walls or shoot you without turning around:
- What was your ping?
- What was opponents ping?
- Are packet losses happening at the server?
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Carmy on Monday, December 15, 2014, 16:33:26 PM
We where playing main! We where 5 or 4 people three on D and myself and War on A..I got behind  the shed in front of north enters and there was no way for him to shoot me and he did,,So I guess you had to be there cause this is real big time BS,,I left to go to my server! And He knows I have Admin there;all players that where playing with him left to join us!! He will not play if a admin is on??? Why?? I know why! cause I told him I will ban his ass!!
Big Cheater! His name was fishy I wonder why!! Haha A loser that will never change..If he comes to AAS he has a ban from me!!
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Ganja on Monday, December 15, 2014, 16:45:38 PM
He will not play if a admin is on??? Why?? I know why! cause I told him I will ban his ass!!

Well anyone would avoid servers where admins tell you they'll ban you if you join lol :D
Maybe he shot you from the vent, maybe from NSE (I know it was main only but some people are just unfair)
Maybe next time someone get on his team and record his gameplay or something ;)
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Monday, December 15, 2014, 19:44:50 PM
We where playing main! We where 5 or 4 people three on D and myself and War on A..I got behind  the shed in front of north enters and there was no way for him to shoot me and he did,,So I guess you had to be there cause this is real big time BS,,I left to go to my server! And He knows I have Admin there;all players that where playing with him left to join us!! He will not play if a admin is on??? Why?? I know why! cause I told him I will ban his ass!!
Big Cheater! His name was fishy I wonder why!! Haha A loser that will never change..If he comes to AAS he has a ban from me!!

easy soulation carmy get his guid from your server logs and add both of his accounts to your banlist and all others can play without some fishy tard playing  on your server
i've seen the way this player has played on your server and its not his amount of kills it's the way he gets the kills that are very questionable/fishy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Carmy on Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 00:16:06 AM
Thank you I think I will!
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Bart! on Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 01:42:02 AM
We where playing main! We where 5 or 4 people three on D and myself and War on A..I got behind  the shed in front of north enters and there was no way for him to shoot me and he did,,So I guess you had to be there cause this is real big time BS,,I left to go to my server! And He knows I have Admin there;all players that where playing with him left to join us!! He will not play if a admin is on??? Why?? I know why! cause I told him I will ban his ass!!
Big Cheater! His name was fishy I wonder why!! Haha A loser that will never change..If he comes to AAS he has a ban from me!!
I wouldn't join a server either if I knew I just get a ban from the server admin when he is mad.

Please read my post before, the thing you describe is impossible, even with hacks, so there has to be another explanation. He was probably on a different location.
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Carmy on Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
Well he got on ts with me!! And said that its bs and has no clue to who that other account belong's to!! Now! He also said that his other account was sweeper and his friend play's on it!! Then said to me! But  you and Dario play from the same house!! and i told him ya but we don't hack!! So ???  :D
 
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
seeing him play yesterday what i seen is quick reload of saw, he had recoil, kinda of the player that sits back and waits then comes out just sprayn in spots where people would normally be camping, other then that nothing special

he kinda of reminds me of that other player that got ban from 82nd clan and kicked out of there clan

i only ws able to capture 30 of vid on fraps, thought ur able to make it 2 or 5 min vid??
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 12:29:46 PM
thought ur able to make it 2 or 5 min vid??

If you buy or illegally download fraps. Otherwise 30 seconds max
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: -[unR]BENDAWICH on Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 12:34:07 PM
Retail versions u can record for as long as you want its quite heavy on ur hd space tho, which isnt really a prob until u want to upload it. You can set it to record in increments of say 4gb which is more useful, as you more than likely dont have to do any editing.

Quick reloading of a Ar is pretty simple to do and can also be done by accident too, i wont post it here for obvious reasons.

Also do you have Nvidia gc wickid? I know that nvidia has shadowplay that records gameplay but iam not sure with aa being as old as it is, whether it will work or not.
Title: Re: therealhomedog
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 12:35:54 PM
If you buy or illegally download fraps. Otherwise 30 seconds max

thx ill have to get the boot copy