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Title: Crap
Post by: zoxee on Saturday, June 06, 2015, 11:52:36 AM
23. script/cheat kid is back in town...

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Title: Re: Crap
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Saturday, June 06, 2015, 12:08:16 PM
How do you get these notifications? reports or some kind of notifying system? xd
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: Ganja on Saturday, June 06, 2015, 13:07:52 PM
I had the feeling he was watching enemies through walls while spectating him.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: Bart! on Saturday, June 06, 2015, 13:10:01 PM
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/418243/23.Q-Lee (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/418243/23.Q-Lee)!/

Also linked to
http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayerStats&pid=861248 (http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayerStats&pid=861248)

Don't have more information at the moment.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Sunday, June 07, 2015, 02:28:55 AM
BTW:
http://aao25.com/forum/honorclaims/honor-claim-7190/msg89840/#msg89840 (http://aao25.com/forum/honorclaims/honor-claim-7190/msg89840/#msg89840)

There's nothing unusual that can be seen at this end at this moment.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: Galle on Sunday, June 07, 2015, 04:54:52 AM
Ye, this guy is clear hacker. Banned him yesterday from Seurahuone server because I have seen him hack also before. This guy don't even defend himself when accused of hacking. Haven't seen hackers for a while but this guys is clear case, others should ban him also.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: 23.Q-Lee on Sunday, June 07, 2015, 15:32:02 PM
Cool to see my own thread, the title fits very well by the way.

Ye, this guy is clear hacker. Banned him yesterday from Seurahuone server because I have seen him hack also before. This guy don't even defend himself when accused of hacking. Haven't seen hackers for a while but this guys is clear case, others should ban him also.

Why should i defend myself ? Most if not all accusations come from people that dont have a clue whats actually possible in this game. They didnt even play back in the days where AAO had some kind of a competitive scene with tournaments, ladders, ESL etc. Its just a waste of time for both sites.

I met a few very good oldschool players from the glorious times of AAO, which led to pretty even fights.
Be prepared to ban them too from your pretty server...

The only "cheat" i ever used was (and still is) an optimised(within the pb rules) .ini file and a true 5.1 soundcard / headset.(no emulated USB crap) with special drivers for AAO. Most of it can still be found on the old AAO forums(google cache is your friend).

@Ganja
And yes, i sometimes "look" or even follow enemies through walls, i do that when i hear steps/noises etc., because of the 3d sound, the sound changes to the front speakers and gets louder when i look directly at a source of sound. This lets me pintpoint the exact location where the sound came from(the position and actions of the enemy). In small maps like Urban Assault, this comes close to to an actual radar, an audio radar if you will. Combine that with unexperienced or just plain bad opponents and a high killrate is guaranteed.

This said, i will end my justification here. Feel free do think and believe whatever you want.
I still like this game because of the great time i had back then and will play it from time to time.
Feel free to kick or ban me from your servers if you feel thats needed.

And to all the good players still around, who actually like some competition -> see ya soon!

Sincerly

your so called "script kiddy"(i like that, makes me feel young again)



Title: Re: Crap
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, June 07, 2015, 17:24:53 PM
Cool to see my own thread, the title fits very well by the way.

Why should i defend myself ? Most if not all accusations come from people that dont have a clue whats actually possible in this game. They didnt even play back in the days where AAO had some kind of a competitive scene with tournaments, ladders, ESL etc. Its just a waste of time for both sites.

I met a few very good oldschool players from the glorious times of AAO, which led to pretty even fights.
Be prepared to ban them too from your pretty server...

The only "cheat" i ever used was (and still is) an optimised(within the pb rules) .ini file and a true 5.1 soundcard / headset.(no emulated USB crap) with special drivers for AAO. Most of it can still be found on the old AAO forums(google cache is your friend).

@Ganja
And yes, i sometimes "look" or even follow enemies through walls, i do that when i hear steps/noises etc., because of the 3d sound, the sound changes to the front speakers and gets louder when i look directly at a source of sound. This lets me pintpoint the exact location where the sound came from(the position and actions of the enemy). In small maps like Urban Assault, this comes close to to an actual radar, an audio radar if you will. Combine that with unexperienced or just plain bad opponents and a high killrate is guaranteed.

This said, i will end my justification here. Feel free do think and believe whatever you want.
I still like this game because of the great time i had back then and will play it from time to time.
Feel free to kick or ban me from your servers if you feel thats needed.

And to all the good players still around, who actually like some competition -> see ya soon!

Sincerly

your so called "script kiddy"(i like that, makes me feel young again)





I've seen you shoot insta-pre-fire-headshots. I can believe some people have extremely precise aim, but not someone who comes back in the game after so many years. Nice try
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: zoxee on Sunday, June 07, 2015, 19:25:06 PM
Why should i defend myself ? Most if not all accusations come from people that dont have a clue whats actually possible in this game. They didnt even play back in the days where AAO had some kind of a competitive scene

lol shut it, stupid. I started playing this game in 2002, co-founded [RtM] - Resort to Mortality
with Joao and Keith in 2003. And i'm leini's cousin. So don't talk about "ol' times" like you own them..
23. "accomplishments" in the past were always subject to some debate anyways.
Especially thanks to that noob pakistani of yours who was all over the appeal threads 2 years ago.
And what that endless discussion about "competitive advantage" goes we had it already with tididi
who claimed at the time that his room was so full of hiFi-speakers that he had to climb over them
to reach his bathroom when bedtime came. We've had enough of all that crap stories, really.

Maybe you're not aware of it, but the actual admins have made a hell of a job
in the last years to bring this game a little peace and quiet from part-time "game tuners" with tiny d*cks
and guys with mouths full of shit like yours. You didn't even notice that we now have a well
functioning game client and a great website. Too bad.

Bottomline is : we all achieved to make this game quiet & hacker free since over a year now,
so everybody knows, feels and smells what normal and quiet (and good too why not) looks like.
Maybe your case would have gone under in 2006-2007, because there were thousands of players
and hundreds of cheaters, but that's not the case anymore. It's peace-time now.
the smallest little bullet flying by is heard by everybody, and your session on urban 96-5 was not
a bullet, it was an intercontinental missile..

Going through the door with your head first won't help you much these days. Just my 2 cents.
But then again i guess you was away 2 long :/
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: =IGC=-=W!CK!D on Monday, June 08, 2015, 01:01:38 AM
Great post zox

I Love the part where he claims having such great sound  and is able to follow the sound through  walls . Good 1 lol

I've only played against him once or twice the most .. killed him twice @ he left

I strongly do belive in assist anti cheat system.. though it doesn't detect right away as we would like it too

But all  kiddie script cheaters get caught sooner or later.. I just can't understand for life of me why cheat on a game that has less 90 players max???

Title: Re: Crap
Post by: Bart! on Monday, June 08, 2015, 01:46:05 AM
Actually, not to play devils advocate here, but he is right about the sound thing he mentioned.
As I played EMS (ESL Master Series), and actually won it with my team, this is only possible because I had X-FI soundcard as well.

However, this kind of sound is only possible nowadays with windows XP (and custom drivers) (unless someone is very good in coding and coded own drivers for w7/w8).

I am not going to say he is clean or dirty, but so long there is no proof, he is innocent to me. And trust me, a lot is possible in this game what a lot of players are unable to do now. (Did you know: if you lean, and shoot, and immediately move back again, in the same second, you actually shoot as if you are fully leaned, in the past so many bs hs' were made that way, but they were legit.)
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: ronski on Monday, June 08, 2015, 04:14:40 AM
Its true, with good sound setup and knowledge of the map you get huge advantage. But even with the best sound setup there is no way you can know where someone is if that someone makes no sound at all. He may have good setup, but he is not the only one and being aware that someone is coming, you can easily just hide and wait. But when he runs directly to you and shoots to your head immediately from the corner, it starts smell a bit. Ghosting would explain this, but not his unbelievable sets.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: =IGC=-=W!CK!D on Tuesday, June 09, 2015, 12:31:03 PM
Ye, this guy is clear hacker. Banned him yesterday from Seurahuone server because I have seen him hack also before. This guy don't even defend himself when accused of hacking. Haven't seen hackers for a while but this guys is clear case, others should ban him also.

and what about all your headshots??? just saying,   
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: ronski on Tuesday, June 09, 2015, 14:25:52 PM
and what about all your headshots??? just saying,

How many accounts do you have? Lets have a quiz and admins tell us ho wins! My guess is 10.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: bRU$seLs.2004- on Tuesday, June 09, 2015, 16:46:28 PM
ey Q.Lee tunnel?
Du kleine Mistgeburt frag mal fabian.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: =IGC=-=W!CK!D on Tuesday, June 09, 2015, 17:09:50 PM
How many accounts do you have? Lets have a quiz and admins tell us ho wins! My guess is 10.

5 or 6  that I can remember why??? haven't been playing all the much still getting settled in my new home and I was just fucking with galle so don't get your panties all in a bunch, galle knows I just like fucking with him

want me to post all my accounts????? I got nothing to hide lmao, here you go, I might of missed 1

http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayerStats&pid=834040 (http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayerStats&pid=834040)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/812128/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/812128/)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/682602/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/682602/)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/810599/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/810599/)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/834095/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/834095/)
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Tuesday, June 09, 2015, 17:22:01 PM
6 or 7  that I know of why??? haven't been playing all the much still getting settled in my new home and I was just fucking with galle so don't get your panties all in a bunch, galle knows I just like fucking with him

want me to post all my account????? I got nothing to hide lmao
Well, I see you're turning 106 this year:
http://aao25.com/forum/calendar/?year=2015;month=11 (http://aao25.com/forum/calendar/?year=2015;month=11)
I knew yo ass was old, but didn't think it was ancient :D

Thought I'd throw that in the mix :D
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: ronski on Tuesday, June 09, 2015, 18:12:41 PM
5 or 6  that I can remember why??? haven't been playing all the much still getting settled in my new home and I was just fucking with galle so don't get your panties all in a bunch, galle knows I just like fucking with him

want me to post all my accounts????? I got nothing to hide lmao, here you go, I might of missed 1

http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayerStats&pid=834040 (http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayerStats&pid=834040)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/812128/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/812128/)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/682602/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/682602/)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/810599/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/810599/)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/834095/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/834095/)


Was going to say "no need" before you edited your post, but you were faster than me. I Just dont understand why so many? You made one in last month and came today trolling with it. Maybe I just don't understand you.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: =IGC=-=W!CK!D on Tuesday, June 09, 2015, 19:23:27 PM
What are you talking about just made 1 last months?? Those accounts listed are probably older then you are....

Had these accounts before assist came along. So I can use them how I feel like using them. And I change the names on them cause staying with 1 name gets boring.....

Trolling with it??? The hell you talking about I used gotcha account didn't stay on long .. I have a real life I don't play 7 to 10 hours a day like some people lol
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: =IGC=-=W!CK!D on Tuesday, June 09, 2015, 19:24:53 PM
Well, I see you're turning 106 this year:
http://aao25.com/forum/calendar/?year=2015;month=11 (http://aao25.com/forum/calendar/?year=2015;month=11)
I knew yo ass was old, but didn't think it was ancient :D

Thought I'd throw that in the mix :D

Lol thank you teddy and I look pretty good for 106
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: zoxee on Tuesday, June 09, 2015, 21:00:43 PM
106

;)
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: ronski on Wednesday, June 10, 2015, 04:40:15 AM
What are you talking about just made 1 last months?? Those accounts listed are probably older then you are....

Had these accounts before assist came along. So I can use them how I feel like using them. And I change the names on them cause staying with 1 name gets boring.....

Trolling with it??? The hell you talking about I used gotcha account didn't stay on long .. I have a real life I don't play 7 to 10 hours a day like some people lol

I'm sorry, I didn't even open the links you listed. Are you saying that Hit^Man was not your account? I thought I saw him blaming in Atas Hospital server that Galle was Q.Lee. Saw the connection between that and your earlier post in this thread. That account was indeed nearly created. If I'm wrong here, I am terribly sorry about this.

http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/861527/Hit%5EMan/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/861527/Hit%5EMan/)
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: ronski on Wednesday, June 10, 2015, 05:12:30 AM
And yes, you're correct - all accounts you listed are older than mine. If you are referring me as having no life because of a few long sessions, it's partly true. Im divorced man who gets to see his child from three to five days a week, so those days when I'm alone, after my day labor is done I might spend the lonely time as well playing the game I like.

We did have long session yesterday so it's also possible that I remember everything wrong. If it was not Hit^Man who was trolling there, Im sorry for him too about bringing him into this and saying here things he didn't do. In some part we did wonder who he was, it was clearly someones another account.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, June 10, 2015, 06:45:13 AM
The one you linked to belongs to him as well, you're right.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: ronski on Wednesday, June 10, 2015, 07:39:56 AM
Thanks for the info Teddy.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: =IGC=-=W!CK!D on Wednesday, June 10, 2015, 09:51:04 AM
The one you linked to belongs to him as well, you're right.

Wrong again not mine... I stated to killaman. De activate this account was set up for my kid ... and he's not a troll he's 10 years old ..... so to prevent bulls hit DEACTIVATE IT
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, June 10, 2015, 10:18:04 AM
Wrong again not mine... I stated to killaman. De activate this account was set up for my kid ... and he's not a troll he's 10 years old ..... so to prevent bulls hit DEACTIVATE IT
I'm sorry that I don't know what you told Killaman. And I don't see who's using a computer. I just see what accounts are used on the same one.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: ronski on Wednesday, June 10, 2015, 11:26:35 AM
I don't remember exact date, but some time ago you wrote in shoutbox, how rude people are against new players, and many of us agrees with you in that. You told that the new guy ( your brother ) will never come back, and you told that you weren't wondering that at all. It's a shame, because this game needs new players. Now you want to deactivate your 10 year old sons account, who has played only 6 hours, made 27kills and died 18 times in hour. Clearly he reads the forum, knows already some players from the game and knows how to play. Its sad if we are loosing that kind of talent. Imagine if he plays a few years, how good he might be someday :)
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: zoxee on Wednesday, June 10, 2015, 14:39:30 PM
Im divorced man who gets to see his child from three to five days a week, so those days when I'm alone, after my day labor is done I might spend the lonely time as well playing the game I like.

I've been through the same shit, all my sympathy :/
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: ronski on Wednesday, June 10, 2015, 18:03:50 PM
I've been through the same shit, all my sympathy :/

Thanks mate, I'm sorry to hear that you've been in same situation. I hope you're doing well nowadays.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: Nip! on Friday, June 12, 2015, 03:55:46 AM
Q-Lee ? Hacks?

You guys must be joking, I know him ever since 2005 when we played Mout McKenna together along with SpawN51, Resistance from .Tg, Tarquin from .ops etcetera, I was not in the competetive nor the pro scene back then, but I had useful informations from them regarding sound, which I didn't believe back then.

Ever since I joined JustPlay, bigzz,cocaine and noobia told me how to properly use the sound, following the sound through the walls, due to the tickrates it made a lot easier, Bart can approve how I changed from 1 day to another.

Regarding the headshots, it is your problem if you aim at the ground or somewhere else while moving, crosshair has to be put at the head-angle, inst hs if someone comes.

I am not suprised that you guys flame him becuase of hacking, becuase most of you guys don't even know what sound means.

Hell, 2009 when I had my modified shit, I could hear from spawn to spawn, as it was "wide-open serversided" sound. Bart knows.


So stop the bullshit of accusing Q-lee as a Hacker. ever since 2005 he played like that, and still is, and never received a ban or whatsoever -.-
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Wednesday, June 17, 2015, 03:59:59 AM
So you can vouch for him Nip! ? Weren't you banned from ELS for cheating?
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: =IHF=^Napalm on Wednesday, June 17, 2015, 04:38:40 AM
Weren't you banned from ELS for cheating?

 :D lol  :D  :up:
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Wednesday, June 17, 2015, 06:06:32 AM
lol :)
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: -Vegeta- on Thursday, June 18, 2015, 03:30:43 AM
So you can vouch for him Nip! ? Weren't you banned from ELS for cheating?
Priceless.
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: raw on Thursday, June 18, 2015, 04:26:05 AM
Priceless.

Aaahahahaha!!!
Title: Re: Crap
Post by: zoxee on Monday, July 06, 2015, 16:16:21 PM
So you can vouch for him Nip! ? Weren't you banned from ELS for cheating?
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Title: Re: Crap
Post by: ciuralla on Wednesday, July 22, 2015, 13:49:22 PM
23. is simply good pro old-school player, same with Nip. All the whiners in this thread simply don't know how to play at that level.

Looking at walls? LOL, it's obvious technique for following sound sources.

ESL ban? Sure. Got any hard proofs?

Assist Anti-Cheat system is basically break-proof now, so all stories about hackers are myths.