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America's Army => Anti-Cheat => Topic started by: preat0r33 on Monday, August 25, 2014, 14:12:44 PM

Title: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: preat0r33 on Monday, August 25, 2014, 14:12:44 PM
Hi Assist team,

I was TKed by these 2 players on hospital,  just because they didn't agree with my tactics as VIP -
I wanted to rush (and told my team not to throw smoke so as not to give the enemy a hint I would rush) but anyway, they decided to tk me ASAP at the start of 2 rounds, just because I wanted to not camp for ages and ages.

They did it so that the set of rounds would end quicker and they could replace me. That sort of thing really should be punishable.

You should be able to check the logs and see that I was tked at the start of 2 successive rounds.

It was on the ATAS server, which seems to be full who assholes like this who  can get away with intentional TKing in the chaos of a large crowd. It happened about an hour ago.

Would you be able to ban them?

Server link:
http://battletracker.com/aaoserver/178.200.26.179:1733/ (http://battletracker.com/aaoserver/178.200.26.179:1733/)


Tracker links:
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/129393/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/129393/)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/812455/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/812455/)

thanks for reading
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: Alex on Monday, August 25, 2014, 14:36:33 PM
We do not place bans for intentional TKs unless it becomes extreme, as in tking the whole team for a lot of rounds. We prefer to let the server owners handle these types of situations as they're best suited for the job. We weren't there, we don't know what happened.
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: bollie on Monday, August 25, 2014, 15:50:30 PM
Slon and smoke teamkilling?
Than you must be a really bad vip before these guys do something like that...
But you got  any screenshots of this event??
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Monday, August 25, 2014, 15:50:45 PM
come on R4ley2, this you don't mean for real, right? you must be joking I hope.
this is not kindergarden like you say: teacher, teacher, he did something bad to me.
just be a men and stay with it - you maybe could swap the vip to someone others, right?
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: Spanky on Monday, August 25, 2014, 15:55:15 PM
We can't see the logs of servers, Assist doesn't have access to that.

I would like to say we could help you but you really should get screenshots. If this happens multiple times with proof, we can definitely ban.
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: Alex on Monday, August 25, 2014, 16:00:53 PM
We can't see the logs of servers, Assist doesn't have access to that.

I would like to say we could help you but you really should get screenshots. If this happens multiple times with proof, we can definitely ban.
A tk in 2 rounds like he claims is hardly ban-able, even with screenshots. Let the server admins deal with that. Even with screenshots of the TKs, we have no idea what happened before that or what was said.
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: Spanky on Monday, August 25, 2014, 16:31:38 PM
I said if it happens multiple times :)
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Monday, August 25, 2014, 18:06:59 PM
A tk in 2 rounds like he claims is hardly ban-able, even with screenshots. Let the server admins deal with that. Even with screenshots of the TKs, we have no idea what happened before that or what was said.

+1
do not start to judge things like that. he did maybe something you can not see before they start to tk him. and yes, let the server admin judge this.
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: God on Tuesday, August 26, 2014, 11:32:29 AM
lmao i cant stop laughing :)))) really ??? man what have u done before you left the server ??? you started tk the whole team and you got kicked ....omg ... and i tk you because u started talking bs to us ...even we started to votekick you because there was no admin on.....but anyway...
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: preat0r33 on Tuesday, August 26, 2014, 17:07:37 PM
lmao i cant stop laughing :)))) really ??? man what have u done before you left the server ??? you started tk the whole team and you got kicked ....omg ... and i tk you because u started talking bs to us ...even we started to votekick you because there was no admin on.....but anyway...

I wasn't trying to tk the whole team silly boy - I shot at Mr Slon, (which yes, helps my cause in no way). I'd sure like to know what I said that provoked you though. Seems like you deliberately TKed me in successive rounds, to end the set of rounds, so you could replace me as you didn't want to follow my strategy.

come on R4ley2, this you don't mean for real, right? you must be joking I hope.
this is not kindergarden like you say: teacher, teacher, he did something bad to me.
just be a men and stay with it - you maybe could swap the vip to someone others, right?

Hmm, it would be interesting to see how other people would react in that situation, being subjected to opportunistic abuse like that. I have to say I found this a particularly unpleasant situation. Funny you should say about swapping vip - I did in fact say that I wanted vip for a few more rounds only - just go with my strategy.

Trust me, I have been TKed unprovoked quite a few times (not by misfire) and never been overly fussed about it. In fact on saturday in water treatment a guy just shot me dead at the start of the round, and I swear to god, I did not say a word or act in anyway to provoke it.

Anyway, it seems like the jury has spoken - thanks for giving my request serious consideration at least. I have no screenshots - I was hoping you could see the logs of those players in successive rounds and see they were TKing at the start. I guess if it had happened 7 times in a row it would be clearer (and I had screenshots).

 ATAs'll give me the finger but hey, I'll ask  :)
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: Vanoke on Tuesday, August 26, 2014, 17:25:41 PM
I hope you don't lost you fun in the game.
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: God on Tuesday, August 26, 2014, 17:26:15 PM
hahahaha i killed you 1 round and after that you started tk and you got kicked ....to bad that i didnt took a ss of that :)
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: preat0r33 on Tuesday, August 26, 2014, 17:34:14 PM
The admins here are well aware that I started to TK, I just admitted it in my previous post, you don't need a screenshot.

Don't want to elaborate on what provoked you though?

May as well close this thread in that case.

Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Tuesday, August 26, 2014, 18:48:52 PM
lol 1st mistake playing on  ATAS server
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 02:37:17 AM
You're right in the sense that Smoke did have -220 ROE at 17:12 GMT that day. But He had played a couple of hours that day since some time before 10 GMT and that's the only ROE he ever got. That's hardly offensive.

The same with Mr.Slon. He had -179 about 40 seconds later, but even though he does sometimes get ROE, 95% of his rounds are still ROE free and I would hardly call that offensive either.

All I can say is that both of them TKed someone in a rapid succession, but it does seem to only have happened once.


As opposed to you, who had -1512 in 5 minutes after the previous.



And people TKing at spawn before you can move is usually an accident. People press the fire button for some reason. It might be because they've got AA running in a window and they see the round starting and are switching to AA, it might be another reason, but it's rarely intentional.
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 03:15:00 AM
And people TKing at spawn before you can move is usually an accident. People press the fire button for some reason. It might be because they've got AA running in a window and they see the round starting and are switching to AA, it might be another reason, but it's rarely intentional.

If he was the vip at that moment that couldn't have happened ;)
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: God on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 03:55:16 AM
You're right in the sense that Smoke did have -220 ROE at 17:12 GMT that day. But He had played a couple of hours that day since some time before 10 GMT and that's the only ROE he ever got. That's hardly offensive.

The same with Mr.Slon. He had -179 about 40 seconds later, but even though he does sometimes get ROE, 95% of his rounds are still ROE free and I would hardly call that offensive either.

All I can say is that both of them TKed someone in a rapid succession, but it does seem to only have happened once.


As opposed to you, who had -1512 in 5 minutes after the previous.


i think that this is saying everything.
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 05:19:26 AM
If he was the vip at that moment that couldn't have happened ;)

I was referring to this, so that couldn't have happened:
and never been overly fussed about it. In fact on saturday in water treatment a guy just shot me dead at the start of the round, and I swear to god, I did not say a word or act in anyway to provoke it.


And Smoke, learn to quote me properly! :D
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: God on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 08:12:17 AM
was in hurry hahahah sorry Master ! hahahah
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: Bart! on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 09:57:05 AM
Just everybody calm down and let it go.   Intentional tk is never good, whether  it's just 1 person or a whole team
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: preat0r33 on Thursday, August 28, 2014, 14:49:06 PM
You're right in the sense that Smoke did have -220 ROE at 17:12 GMT that day. But He had played a couple of hours that day since some time before 10 GMT and that's the only ROE he ever got. That's hardly offensive.

The same with Mr.Slon. He had -179 about 40 seconds later, but even though he does sometimes get ROE, 95% of his rounds are still ROE free and I would hardly call that offensive either.

All I can say is that both of them TKed someone in a rapid succession, but it does seem to only have happened once.

Well thanks for checking - I see your point, should not have gone to the "high court" for this, maybe the "county court".

As opposed to you, who had -1512 in 5 minutes after the previous.
That just means I'm not as good at Tking as they are then - they can clearly turn and shoot at teammates rapidly to keep their ROE down, when I shot Mr Slon I didn't turn around rapidly in order to do so, so my ROE spiked.

And people TKing at spawn before you can move is usually an accident. People press the fire button for some reason. It might be because they've got AA running in a window and they see the round starting and are switching to AA, it might be another reason, but it's rarely intentional.

Not in this instance - the guy was not directly behind me for one thing, second, he left the server immediately after TKing me, then returned to join the opposite team, did not apologise or say anything otherwise. That sort of thing may happen to you, but I can rarely think of instances where this a plausible explanation for random TKs. Not that I'm overly fussed.
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: phuNkiii.ops on Friday, December 19, 2014, 06:04:05 AM
IGC smoke just 203ed me from tower when i was standing behind our 1st pillar..  LOL
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: Ganja on Friday, December 19, 2014, 06:49:42 AM
IGC smoke just 203ed me from tower when i was standing behind our 1st pillar..  LOL

Apparently he lets his nephew play on his account ... keeps shooting friendlies
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Friday, December 19, 2014, 07:08:54 AM
Yeah. I know that as well.

His nephew was playing the other day and shot me in the back at spawn on SF Hospital. I went prone and shot him in the head with 1 shot and imagine what... I got kicked to leavenworth...
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: bollie on Friday, December 19, 2014, 14:21:00 PM
Haha teddy :-D
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Friday, December 19, 2014, 19:41:35 PM
Haha teddy :-D
Don't you lough at me! :D
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: bollie on Friday, December 19, 2014, 21:57:39 PM
I sure do haha :-D
Im happy u shared it with us!
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Saturday, December 20, 2014, 13:50:16 PM
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Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Saturday, December 20, 2014, 15:44:54 PM
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keep tellin smoke to make his newphew a account of his own lol
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Saturday, December 20, 2014, 16:47:35 PM
keep tellin smoke to make his newphew a account of his own lol

He should do it as quickly as he can because everyone is complaining when smoke shows up :P
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: CheeseyTron on Saturday, December 20, 2014, 17:23:53 PM
Can someone please suspend Smoke's account till he clears this up with his nephew...it's gone on long enough!

Thanks
Title: Re: [Mr.Slon] and =IGC=Smoke
Post by: bollie on Sunday, December 21, 2014, 05:23:18 AM
I will talk to smoke