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Playermodels ruined
« on: Monday, March 24, 2014, 11:10:24 AM »
Why did you do this? It looks stupid when you have guys running in summer gear and summer hats in SF pipeline. And when you die the body suddenly transforms into the correct snow uniform with snow helmets.

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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday, March 26, 2014, 02:08:26 AM »
It's been talked about before but I'll distill it for you;

The US Army has 1 type of camo, for budgetary reasons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform

All that was done is the camo was updated in-game to the version used in 2.8.5, which is more modern. The death uniform is an unavoidable bug where the original camo overrides the mod which forces the updated camo.
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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, March 26, 2014, 05:30:57 AM »
It's been talked about before but I'll distill it for you;

The US Army has 1 type of camo, for budgetary reasons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform

All that was done is the camo was updated in-game to the version used in 2.8.5, which is more modern. The death uniform is an unavoidable bug where the original camo overrides the mod which forces the updated camo.
But the US army uses snow camo on top of it, that's why the UCP pattern looks retarded in snow maps and the snow camo was retained in 2.8.5. And on top of that the SF playermodel includes the boonie hat for hot/tropical conditions which makes it look incredibly stupid.

Heck even the UCP is being replaced with the multicam pattern for desert/summer conditions so it's not even modern in that sense... might as well just revert the proper player models without death bugs (which look much sexier even :P)

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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, March 26, 2014, 22:03:50 PM »
I researched all I could and couldn't find anything other than the standard ACU for US Army. For the Marines, it's totally different, they got MARPAT which has something like half a dozen different varieties.

I could be wrong but I believe the "attachments" such as hats, glasses and other things are randomized by the mod and assigned on round start.
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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, March 26, 2014, 22:45:10 PM »
Did a quick Google search and supposedly they wear their Parka snow camo on top of the regular ACU suits. See page 31 link http://www.wainwright.army.mil/nwtc/Classes/Winter_Packing_List_Picture_Book_Mar_2013.pdf

So yes the camo in snow environments differs from dessert environments. But anyways, the damage is done so just leave the new suits in the snow maps.

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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, March 26, 2014, 23:32:24 PM »
Interesting. I could still argue that our guys in AA just forgot to pack their snow parkas :)

We could also talk about players cheating the system's texture settings to make enemy more visible by blurring the camo patterns or their surroundings to enable a contrast.

Also, it's not like camo actually ever played a role in AA. The jittery non-fluid movement animations give you away much sooner than the lack of realism in the camo.
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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #6 on: Thursday, March 27, 2014, 00:46:59 AM »
Anyway the Army model won't affect OpFor's models.
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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #7 on: Thursday, March 27, 2014, 03:56:15 AM »
I researched all I could and couldn't find anything other than the standard ACU for US Army. For the Marines, it's totally different, they got MARPAT which has something like half a dozen different varieties.

I could be wrong but I believe the "attachments" such as hats, glasses and other things are randomized by the mod and assigned on round start.
If you go to militaryphotos.net searching afghanistan pics or watch afghanistan videos, you won't see any new pictures or videos from the last couple of years with anything other than the new multicam pattern. They started appearing already in Iraq in 2011, when they were pulling out.

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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #8 on: Saturday, March 29, 2014, 00:00:03 AM »
Be quiet Leopardi, the new models are great, I like them (and most players do).

Offline ELiZ

Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #9 on: Saturday, March 29, 2014, 02:58:06 AM »
Poll has been made, you can cast your vote in the Client, under the Polls Tab.

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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #10 on: Saturday, March 29, 2014, 18:31:51 PM »
Poll has been made, you can cast your vote in the Client, under the Polls Tab.
It should be a client option if possible and everyone is happy. Especially if it's not possible to get rid of the summer winter uniforms, in particular the SF soldiers look like clowns with the boonie summer hats.

And bug free experience would be bug free, the switching bodies do break immersion.

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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #11 on: Saturday, March 29, 2014, 18:48:15 PM »
till when is this poll running Eliz?

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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #12 on: Saturday, March 29, 2014, 19:07:16 PM »
till when is this poll running Eliz?

I think 8 more days(From now) was the limit I set.

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Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #13 on: Saturday, April 05, 2014, 00:21:44 AM »
It should be a client option if possible and everyone is happy. Especially if it's not possible to get rid of the summer winter uniforms, in particular the SF soldiers look like clowns with the boonie summer hats.

And bug free experience would be bug free, the switching bodies do break immersion.

It's not about "everyone is happy". It's about "assist admins know the shit and rule". Learn it dude.

Offline Saltuarius

Re: Playermodels ruined
« Reply #14 on: Sunday, April 06, 2014, 13:43:10 PM »
i dont think people realize, whats about in the poll.
its like asking: hey guys, do u want something new instead of old? of course...

 

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